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Old 09-21-2012, 09:26 AM   #1
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No doors, illegal?

Jeepers, this morning pulling through the gate onto Ft. Campbell, the MP at the gate told me "Sir, it is my duty to inform you that what you are currently doing is illegal." When I asked him to explain, he told me that I must have at least a mirror on my drivers side, with or without doors and driving with the doors off and no mirror was illegal and that I would be pulled over and ticketed if I did not comply. Is this the case, or was the guy just being a Jeep hater?

If so, any good places to find a set of mirrors that will go on without any doors?

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Old 09-21-2012, 09:29 AM   #2
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Can't say for sure for ur area but I have read the same thing also on other threads. Need at least a driver side mirror. There are threads about reliable mirrors as well. Nothing comes to mind specifically at the moment.

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Old 09-21-2012, 09:32 AM   #3
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Some states require at least one side mirror on the drivers side,that's the law in Maryland. It's best to just put a cheap blind spot mirror or something on to save you some hassle.
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Federal reg's require Driver's side mirror doors on or off if you aere on a State or Federal maintained road.

Any of the Jeeper catalogs have the easy on off mirrors that you seek,
I am running a drivers side from Lange from 4wd.com
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Old 09-21-2012, 09:41 AM   #6
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No doors is optional , meaning that if an awfulsir chooses to write you a ticket, he/she will, then you have to go to court. Most laws state that if the vehicle was designed for the doors to be removed, then it's ok. Blurry law at best.. Mirrors? Most states dictate that if a vehicle has two outside mirrors as delivered from the factory, then two mirrors must be used. Lots of fine print on that one as well, as laws vary from state to state.. Coming from an MP, I would regard it as a courtesy warning from him... not a jeep hater..
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Old 09-21-2012, 09:43 AM   #7
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It's state law, especially no mirrors. Doors are debatable. You can go to a harley shop and find motorcycle mirrors that will fit in the hinges. You can also buy mirror relocation brackets to relocate your factory mirrors.
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At least a rearview is required in every state. Some states require a driver side mirror, some require both a driver and passenger mirror.

I belive some states have exceptions for having a driver side mirror in place of a rearview.

If you have all three you can actually see, so thats what I do.

You could probably order a set of mirrors that go into the hinge pins, or I have heard of people using harley mirrors. I have mirror relocation brackets, so I couldn't help you with those.
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Figure out what exactly your mirror laws are in TN. For example, here in CA the law is at least 2 mirrors, and one has to be a driver side mirror. This means I can havea driver side and a passenger side, or a driver side and rear view.

If you only need one mirror in the driver side to be in compliance, you can go down to your local motorcycle shop and pick up a Harley mirror. Most of them will slide right into your unoccupied door hinge.
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You guys are awesome!

Turns out, in Kentucky there has to be at least a mirror inside (rear view) and one on the drivers side as well. Tennessee there only has to be a rearview. I am going to try and get down to a local bike shop and snag a mirror from them for the bracket .. if not I found a couple not to pricey ones on 4wheelparts.com

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Jeepers, this morning pulling through the gate onto Ft. Campbell, the MP at the gate told me "Sir, it is my duty to inform you that what you are currently doing is illegal." When I asked him to explain, he told me that I must have at least a mirror on my drivers side, with or without doors and driving with the doors off and no mirror was illegal and that I would be pulled over and ticketed if I did not comply. Is this the case, or was the guy just being a Jeep hater?

If so, any good places to find a set of mirrors that will go on without any doors?
I drive through gate 6 every day and not once has any one ever said any thing to me! I think he was BSing you!!! If for some reason that is the case I read a thing the other day you can go to orileys auto and get the 4x6 motorcycle mirrors and adapt them straight to the hinge opening with bolts.
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Defiant mirrors are on my list! Right now, my jeep is sitting in the garage doorless.. I already ran out and did errands early in the morning while passing 4 LEO's.. They didn't even bother looking twice at me
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I drive through gate 6 every day and not once has any one ever said any thing to me! I think he was BSing you!!! If for some reason that is the case I read a thing the other day you can go to orileys auto and get the 4x6 motorcycle mirrors and adapt them straight to the hinge opening with bolts.
I know it, not one has ever said anything to me before this morning. This guy DID drive a Hummer, so I'm guessing he was just being a hater. Who are you with here? We are trying to get together a Jeep club locally.
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Last time I looked, Quadratec had a set of mirrors that slip into the door hinges for $26 to $27
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Another thing, being on base is totally different rules. When I was stationed in NC you didn't have to have doors, but as soon as you come on base they were required by base order. Now that i live in Colorado I don't need doors or side mirrors. :thumb;
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It varies. Some states you can't even take the doors off....as we learned in another thread. So if your Jeep came with doors they need to be left on....but if it didn't come with doors from the factory (like old CJ's) then you are legal. FYI, this is some states only....and military bases may have additional rules.

I would think every state would require you to have the mirrors that the vehicle came with from the factory....on my 2004 I just run the drivers side mirror when doors off and never had an issue....but no side mirror is just asking for a ticket.

My old CJ2a didn't have a rear view from the factory so I don't need one there, I also don't need seatbelts, turn signals, and I only have one rear light. But, it's super old.
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Federal reg's require Driver's side mirror doors on or off if you aere on a State or Federal maintained road.

Any of the Jeeper catalogs have the easy on off mirrors that you seek,
I am running a drivers side from Lange from 4wd.com
Actually, military installations just enforce the state and local traffic laws. Sometimes the branch of service or installation commanders will add things (no cell phone use, mandatory helmets and reflector vests for motorcyclists, etc.)
Here in Arizona, all that is required is some kind of mirror. You only need a side-view mirror if you can't see out of your rear-view mirror. To my knowledge, they haven't added any other restrictions on base.

I personally feel uncomfortable without the use of both side-view mirrors.

There are lots of options for mirror re-location from something simple and cheap that may not be functional but fulfills the legal requirements, to expensive ones that are as good or better than ones with the doors on.

Here are a few WF threads on the subject:
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/mirr...lp-171431.html
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/inex...on-178314.html
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/mirr...on-181886.html
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/best...ts-170152.html
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/with...or-158631.html
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/mirr...ts-149568.html
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Just grab a Harley davidson motorcycle mirror and drop it into the top door hinge. Works fine and looks cool.
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I'm in KY too and recently dealt with this as well. Not sure where you're at specifically, but here in Lexington there's a store called Trailblazers which has the relocation brackets. It's super easy to stick those on and get your mirrors back.

And you're right, it's either both side views or the rear and driver's side. Makes zero sense to me because I look over my shoulder and in a jeep with no doors there's NOTHING obstructing my view...
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no, not good. You, sir, are outstanding!! Miss my 59 CJ5
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One thing to keep in mind, the law rarely specifies what size the mirror must be. It does not have to be 6" square or 5" in diameter. I put bicycle mirrors on my motorcycle years ago. They were about 1 1/2" in dia. hahahaha
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Federal reg's require Driver's side mirror doors on or off if you aere on a State or Federal maintained road.
I'm not sure this is correct. In Texas, my rearview mirror is all I need...saw that somewhere. I run without doors/mirrors no problem. I'm pretty sure it is "state specific".

Edit: ok, i see this was discussed in posts above......
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I'm not sure this is correct. In Texas, my rearview mirror is all I need...saw that somewhere. I run without doors/mirrors no problem. I'm pretty sure it is "state specific".

Edit: ok, i see this was discussed in posts above......
Yeah, I read that too.. I still run with a mirror I bought at a bike shop for 10 bucks just in case though..
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the more i see these kinds of posts-i just kinda scratch my head in wonder. I have the 'CJ' style retro mirrors since they are my perminate mirrors w or w/o doors so i don't have to mess around with them. but what makes me wonder is why would want to drive w/o side mirrors-i probably use em more than the inside one. i could care less what's behind me, i'm more worried about what's comming up the sides of me-can't beleive the number of idiots that like to get to the rear/right of you and stay there-usually in a blind spot. maybe i just got used to using my side mirrors from towing my trailer(which i also added a rear cam to) but at 56'10" i have alot of 'side' to keep an eye on. to me it's more a safety issue and a fairly cheap one to fix, and knowing the kind of goof balls i share the road with on a daily basis, i want to be as safe a possible.
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