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Old 02-25-2009, 09:54 PM   #1
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noob lift question (caution: pic heavy)....

Okay heres the deal and despite being slightly embarrassed to ask, here goes. Bough my jeep about 2months ago, kind of on a whim, not looking to get lectured, but Im already having a ball with it.

Anyway, the previous owner put the 32x11.5 mud terrain tires on it - my 'next upgrade of the day' (changes daily of course) is bigger tires (not that the current ones are close to worn out, but ya, well).

Now my question is does it already have a lift or spacers or both (if not apparent from the pic below, how would I check)? BTW what exactly is the difference between spacers and a lift? Secondly, would I need to lift it further for 33x12.5 tires? See pics below maybe they will prove useful in answering this total noob question....




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Need some pic's of the control arms and the springs, also the front steering system. Pictures of the top of the coil springs front and rear. We can tell you just what you got from that bud.

from the pic's you posted.....

It does NOT have a body lift.

It DOES have a transfer case drop.



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more pics, more help?

Front end:


Front springs (top):


Rear springs (bad angles):

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I see a budget boost in the front (2 inches??), but I dont see anything in the back.
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You have quick disconnect swaybar links.

Most likely 2'' lift coils and a 1 inch coil spacer JUST in the front.

Rear again most likely just 2'' lift coils.

Stock control arms.
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What size """bigger""" tire do you want to run???

With the setup you have now... I personally wouldn't do over the 32's you have now.
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u could run 32 or 33. i wouldnt go any higher nicee jeep though
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Old 02-26-2009, 01:01 AM   #8
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yes you can fit 32s on a 2'' bb.. i run 33s on about 3'' of lift and NO rubbing..

oh..

your missing a bumpstop... cant believe everyone else missed it

seems that your rear is stock.. i run 2'' coils in the front and stock coils in the rear, with about 1.25'' spacers and my bodylift.. my jeep sits level like yours..
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Great look'n Jeep!
Black & Blue is one of my favorite combinations.

On faces too....

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....well, maybe not lol.

Are you missing some bump stops?
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Are you missing some bump stops?

Looks like it to me.
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Looks like it to me.
x2 Looks like all your bump stops have been abducted. No big deal, Just means your shocks will bottom out once in a while
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warning noob question continuation!

bumpstop? please explain....what are they? Where are they missing from (rather where should they be?). Should I worry about replacing them, or figure its okay if I havent missed them?

Lookin to get this thing straightened out, not opposed to spending some money if I need to - it is bonus + tax return time of year !
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You have quick disconnect swaybar links.

Most likely 2'' lift coils and a 1 inch coil spacer JUST in the front.

Rear again most likely just 2'' lift coils.

Stock control arms.
I did notice it looked like the front end was a little higher than the back - what would adding similar spacers to the rear involve? Any ballpark price figures (hopefully something I could do myself?).
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bumpstop? please explain....what are they? Where are they missing from (rather where should they be?). Should I worry about replacing them, or figure its okay if I havent missed them?

Lookin to get this thing straightened out, not opposed to spending some money if I need to - it is bonus + tax return time of year !
Inside your springs there is a cup that is supposed to hold a rubber bump stop. When your axle articulates it has to stop at some point and that's what the bumpstops do. You don't have any pictured in your suspension. So, the only thing stopping your up travel is your shocks. If you over compress the shocks you will damage them.

But, given the manufacturer of your shocks I doubt you'd notice.
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bumpstop? please explain....what are they? Where are they missing from (rather where should they be?). Should I worry about replacing them, or figure its okay if I havent missed them?

Lookin to get this thing straightened out, not opposed to spending some money if I need to - it is bonus + tax return time of year !
bump stops are rubber bushings that fit in the cup that rests in the middle at the top of where where coil go's They limit the axle travel and keep the tires from smacking the fenders etc.

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bump stops are rubber bushings that fit in the cup that rests in the middle at the top of where where coil go's They limit the axle travel and keep the tires from smacking the fenders etc.
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They do more than just stop the tires from smacking the fenders. They also keep the shocks from over compressing the same with the springs.
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They do more than just stop the tires from smacking the fenders. They also keep the shocks from over compressing the same with the springs.
They are also good at not letting the front trac-bar bend over the front diff housing as the axle flex's.
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They are also good at not letting the front trac-bar bend over the front diff housing as the axle flex's.
proper track bars don't hit the diff.
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Does it look like his tie rod is bent in the midle?
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proper track bars don't hit the diff.
You know full well my jeep was not proper...LOL That and the 40 foot drop down a hill didn't help matters...
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Does it look like his tie rod is bent in the midle?
Looks it!

might just be the picture though
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bumpstop? please explain....what are they? Where are they missing from (rather where should they be?). Should I worry about replacing them, or figure its okay if I havent missed them?

Lookin to get this thing straightened out, not opposed to spending some money if I need to - it is bonus + tax return time of year !
One of my bumps was broken in the back before I purchased the Jeep. I didn't notice it when I bought it. I normally just toy around on moderate trails, and try to take it easy. However, with that one stop broken off the way it was, and even with me taking it easy, I still chewed up my fender a bit. So, I personally think you'd benefit from them, but that's just me.





I have a brand new pair of polyurethane DayStar Extended bump stops (in the original package) sitting here, if your interested.

I'm not sure that you necessarily need the extended bumps, or how many you're missing, but if you are interested, just PM me.
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I would stick with the 32's and wheel it... Save the money on tires and spend it on some skids and an sye w/ driveshaft so you can ditch the transfer case drop. Your not really gaining that much going to 33's from 32's. Approx. 1/2". And thats if the tires circumference are truly 33" and 32" respectively. You may find your tires measure 31, or 32.5" while pontential 33's may be anywhere 32.5+ to 33+ circumferences.
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That is an inch and a quarter spacer in the front not 2" I have the same size to level mine for the winch up front.Yeah the bump stops on the right rear,right front and looks like even the left front so I would say they are all MIA.It sits a little to high for stock springs IMO.I would say it has 2.5" Rusty springs along with the 1.25" spacer in front.A friend of mine has 31s on an 02 and they fill the wheel well of it more than the 32s do on this one.Check for a small white brand marking printed on the springs.And yes the tie rod is bent a little right in front of the diff cover.

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