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Old 11-04-2010, 01:24 PM   #1
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not many 8 inch lifts...why not?

i have a 2003 sahara and i'm thinking about doing a lift.. i want to go as high as possible and still be able to use it daily and for wheeling.. if i did go w/the 8 inch i would be changing out axles & what not.. why do so few people get the 8, aside from the serious $$?

a fellow jeeper i ran into who had done his own 4inch lift recommended going lower 'cause he says it's hell to tweak an 8 and very expensive.. but i'm saving up now to get exactly what i want. and doing research to make sure i get good prices..

anybody got the 8? any pics of it?

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Old 11-04-2010, 01:28 PM   #2
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Its simple really. With a 8 inch lift you raise your center of gravity dramatically. Making it much much easier to roll over. Many people wont recommend anything over a 6 inch lift. And why do you need a 8 inch lift exactly?

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Old 11-04-2010, 01:32 PM   #3
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An 8 inch lift in my opinion is There is no advantage to going up that high.
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Old 11-04-2010, 01:36 PM   #4
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One thing to remember is a lift really isn't what will give you the biggest advantage or most clearance offroad. Its the tires. The lowest point of your jeep is the pumpkins (axles, or diffs) and the only way to raise those points it by getting larger tires. The most capable rig in my opinion will have huge tires on a small lift with high clearance skids. Rokmen is my all time favorite company they specialize in high clearance with low center of gravity builds. Check them out. Youll be suprised.
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I had 11 on mine for a few years before it went to full crawler...I never had a problem and it drove great, but the main thing is your gonna have to spend alot of time making sure all the geometry works.
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Old 11-04-2010, 02:00 PM   #6
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everyone is moving on to 15"
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Old 11-04-2010, 02:09 PM   #7
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rolling over would be my main concern,
even if i had the money i just dont see the point of going that high. i have a friend than run 36's on a 2 inch lift and goes a lot easier and less boucing arround while rock climbing vs other rigs with bigger lift.

but again if its something you want and like, ill say go gor it.
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Old 11-04-2010, 02:10 PM   #8
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I want to do it because iv always wanted the big bad raw wrangler I've dreamed of since I was a kid.. Im working & saving now so I can make it happen soon.. I don't mind driving slower & more carefully if necessary but I want it to be unstoppable offroad.. I have considered going the unimog portal route w/6inch lift also but figured 8 probably isn't much difference.. It will of course be a money pit but hey I love jeeps & don't want to drive anything else.. I'll definitely check out rokmen! Thanks!! Ur input is very appreciated
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Old 11-04-2010, 03:19 PM   #9
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8" lift, the advantage is to check out some ti park next to you at traffic lights.
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I checked out rokmen and that's exactly what I'm looking for! I'm looking into it more but I'm thinking along the lines of 38's w/ rokmen fenders, guards, & possibly portals w/ all that..
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Old 11-04-2010, 03:25 PM   #11
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If you like the Rokmen Jeep, take notice that it runs huge 40" tires on only 2.5" lift.
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I'm not into that style simply because you have to cut the jeep up so much it won't be worth crap on the resale unless you find someone who like exactly what you do, and that never happens lol
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what wheel base do plan to run?
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..looking further into the Rokmen mods, i think i'm going to go that route w/stock wheelbase & maybe 3 inch lift.. i don't want to go through all the headaches of troubleshooting geometry right now cause this will be my first shot at a real wheeler..and maybe i'll save that for another time..

i live in nj so i'll have to check the dot regulations but has anyone been pulled over for not having tires covered? i have a little bit of tire poking out right now (about 1inch) and it throws water everywhere now.. i'm assuming this will also be more intense sans fenders?
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You could always go with Metalcloak fenders that give you the extra space and the flares are removable for when you decide to off road
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The cool thing about rokmens idea of a capable rig is that it really is very close to a stock feel on the road since your keeping the center of gravity so low. And plus your not really changing the geometry much at all. And it will be VERY stable on and offroad. I'm a huge fan of their work.
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biggest thing to remember is they are not using stock axles....so your gonna have to open your wallet more if you wanna do that.
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An 8 inch lift in my opinion is There is no advantage to going up that high.
If you like people questioning your manhood then that could be considered an advantage
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Old 11-05-2010, 07:30 PM   #19
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glad you ditched the 8" lift idea. I won't have to make a post pointing our your complete lack of knowledge now
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The other thing nobody touched on. People lift trucks 8-12in all the time. But you don't have a "truck" you have a JEEP. They have to lift a chevy that tall to get the clearence under it. Jeeps have a short wheel base meaning we actually get more lift over smaller movements then big trucks. You lift a big truck 2in and 99 percent of people never notice. you do the same to a jeep and it changes everything. I am at 4in now. I will not go any bigger.
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im glad to see you're having second thoughts on the 8" of lift too. give yourself some time to think about stuff. if you're gonna do it, do it the right way and the way you want, however, don't get too over zealous with how you want it... like 8" of lift for example but seriously, theres tons of things for you to consider, tire sizes, brand, wheels, along with axles, splines, brakes and gears should run somewhat together in your thoughts... lift (SA or LA) exhaust to bend around stuff, tummy tuck, SYE/dc drive shafts, pinion angles etc in a another group... etc... actally it all sorta goes together, but this is sorta grouped okay... do you have inspection laws? that could keep you from doing some stuff if you plan to keep it as a dd. like here in ME, we have them, and you can't have tires two sizes above the stock size, so 31" max, tread has to be covered by flares, and frame height restrictions too. thats just a few of them here, hopefully you don't have to worry about that stuff too! GL ! OOPPSSS forgot to mention lockers toO!!! lunchbox, selectable, or limited slip???
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I think the only reason why people go over 6 inches is for mud bogging. Get to know you're jeep before you pull the trigger on buying a lift. A stock jeep can do alot of things offroad. I've had mine for about a year and tomorrow I will be installing my lift. Take time to do research on what you want and make sure it's the right direction you want to go in.
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i live in nj so i'll have to check the dot regulations but has anyone been pulled over for not having tires covered? i have a little bit of tire poking out right now (about 1inch) and it throws water everywhere now.. i'm assuming this will also be more intense sans fenders?
Depends on the laws where you live, the attitude of the police towards Jeepers, the awareness of the police on the laws, and YOUR prior record(s) from what I've seen.

Back in WA there were laws requiring mud flaps if you were lifted over a certain height. Certain areas the police are real sticklers; especially up near the Buckley area where a lot of off-roaders pass through to get to Evans Creek ORV. A buddy of mine got pulled over all the time for not having mud flaps. Didn't matter if his Jeep was pristine; he got harrased a lot. But then, his "priors" were probably a big factor in that and he lived there, too. Me? I never got pulled over once there for not having mud flaps.

Tube fenders were also a favorite among the police there, but at the time I didn't have them on my Jeep. Front bumpers that didn't span across the front wheels were a favorite, too. Never got pulled over for mine.

Here in Indiana I drive next to and behind police all the time. They never even bother to notice my wide open front end. I always make sure to signal when police are around so they can see I do have turn signals up front. Those LEDs are pretty small...



And yes, without something close to the resemblance of your factory flares you'll get big rooster tails on the front end. Keep your windows up.
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Just for what it's worth.
You could lift it three feet if you wanted, but your differentials are still going to be in the same place, knockin their punkins on rocks as you stumble over them

Tire size will help with that but to run tires that are large enough to really make a big difference you will be going to tons and making major mods.

I run a 4" lift with a 1.25" body lift and 35" tires. I won't go any higher.
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