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Old 01-26-2011, 10:54 AM   #1
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OME 2" Lift

Looking at OME (Old Man Emu) 2" lift for my '04 sport. The kit SEEMS to have everything I need to get this done. It says to allow 6-8 hrs for install. That time seems a little high, but okay will get other people opinions.
My Jeep doesn't go Mudding or even off road much-but with the spring droop that I have, figure may as well get better ride and 2 inch lift than just swapping out for stock ride and height-probably about the same price. with that much time to be involved will probably have a shop put it on... Now the questions.........

1) As this is a 2 inch lift and I am already running 31's, will 33's fit height wise? or will I need to do more than 2" lift and different wheels?

2) What other parts should I maybe allow for? SYE? any chance I will run into other issues steering, brakes, or drivetrain?

3) About how much should I expect to pay for install? Or is this something that BASIC had tools will get me by?

4) Is it true OME has the best aftermarket STREET ride?

Thanks for your help-looking forward to hearing a lot of opinions.

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Old 01-26-2011, 11:06 AM   #2
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I can only speak to your number two, three, and four. I've been running this kit for 6 months with excellent results.

2) I would recommend SYE and Tom Wood 1310 rear drive shaft. In my experience all other OEM components are fine.

3) Basic tools are fine if you have some basic mechanical skills. Just springs, shocks, new front steering dampener, and a rear track bar drop bracket. My kit came with a Tcase drop, but don't do that, do the 2) items instead.

4) In my opinion, yes, but I haven't personally tested all the others. STREET ride is better than stock.

Talk to Dirk the supplier to get set up with the right kit springs for your application.

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Looking at OME (Old Man Emu) 2" lift for my '04 sport. The kit SEEMS to have everything I need to get this done. It says to allow 6-8 hrs for install. That time seems a little high, but okay will get other people opinions.
My Jeep doesn't go Mudding or even off road much-but with the spring droop that I have, figure may as well get better ride and 2 inch lift than just swapping out for stock ride and height-probably about the same price. with that much time to be involved will probably have a shop put it on... Now the questions.........

1) As this is a 2 inch lift and I am already running 31's, will 33's fit height wise? or will I need to do more than 2" lift and different wheels?

2) What other parts should I maybe allow for? SYE? any chance I will run into other issues steering, brakes, or drivetrain?

3) About how much should I expect to pay for install? Or is this something that BASIC had tools will get me by?

4) Is it true OME has the best aftermarket STREET ride?

Thanks for your help-looking forward to hearing a lot of opinions.
2 inches will not clear 33 inch tires if you do any serious off road driving. There are members on here that do run 2 inches of lift along with 33 inch tires but they are fairly easy on the trails. To run 33 inch tires you really need 4 inches of lift. A 2 inch lift may or may not require a transfer case drop which will help eliminate any vibrations you may encounter. The OME kit should come with those spacers too. However, you can also add a 1 or 1.25 inch body lift and a 1 inch motor mount lift and leave the transfer case where it is supposed to be and this will help clear your 33 inch tires as well as eliminate any drive line vibrations. No other mods to steering or brakes will be necessary if you run wheels with proper backspacing of 3.75 to 4 inches. This kit is not hard to install and there are write ups on how to do it but it could cost around $300 or so to have it done by a mechanic. I would recommend welding the track bar relocation bracket in place in the rear. Yes OME will give your Jeep a great ride on and off the road.
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1) the OME 2" lift will not fit 33s. you'd need to add a 1" body lift and 1" bumpstop extensions in front, and 1.5" in the rear...or no body lift and 2" front bumpstop extensions and 2" in the rear. You need at least 1.25" bumpstop extension in the rear no matter what tire size you run, otherwise the track bar bracket will hit the tub floor and you'll bottom out the N67 rear shocks. OME only includes 20mm rear bumpstop extensions, so plan on buying 2" Rubicon Express extensions and cutting them down, or buying Performance Accessories body lift "Mini-Blocks" to extend them.

2) figure on getting a MML, SYE or small t-case drop If you do a BL to fit 33s, then do a MML at the same time. SYE will also require adjustable upper control arms.

3) figure on 8-10 hours labor to install it...$70-90/hr...do the math. the install isn't hard, but it does take a long time. Soak every bolt on the suspension with PB Blaster for 5 days before attempting the lift install. mine took 10 hours or so, 4-5 of which were screwing with upper rear shock mounts. That brings me to the next point. Assume the rear upper shock mounts will break. Buy an extended length black oxide steel 1/4" drill bit and a 1/8" Cobalt steel drill bits. You're in the rust belt...the rear shock bolts will break. When the bolt breaks, drill a pilot hole with the 1/8" and follow it with the 1/4". Or you can try cutting the weld nuts off with a dremel from the underside. If you need to drill them out, you'll need 3-in-1 oil to lube the drill bit with. Do not break the drill bit off inside the bolt, or you'll be pulling your gas tank to get access to the weld nuts. Replace the bolts with Class 10.9's (m5's or m6's i think), some washers and a new nut on top that you can access with a wrench. And yes you can do it with basic hand tools. its not hard, just time consuming.

4. I don't know...ride is very subjective. some people like Skyjacker Nitros, others think they cause kidney damage. I really like my OME's ride, and so did my mom (who drives a bone stock 06 LJ).
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Also, keep in the back of your mind that you might need to think about some adjustable upper rear control arms to adjust pinion angle, I know some people who have not done this with 2" lift and they seem to be fine. I did readjust my pinion angle, but don't know for sure that I really had to.
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1) As this is a 2 inch lift and I am already running 31's, will 33's fit height wise? or will I need to do more than 2" lift and different wheels?
No, you will need at least a 1.25 body lift as well.

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2) What other parts should I maybe allow for? SYE? any chance I will run into other issues steering, brakes, or drivetrain?
You don't need a SYE with a 2" lift. You will need a motor mount lift with the body lift tho.

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Expect to get raped. The install took me about 8 hours, and I know what I'm doing.

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The ride on road is awesome IMO. I run OME 2.5" lift, 1.25 body lift, 1" motor mount lift, and 33x 10.5 KM2's. I get fairly agressive off-road with no issues.
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Old 01-26-2011, 11:32 AM   #7
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I have the OME 2" on my 05' Rubicon and I like it a lot. I installed the kit myself and one tool I wish I had had when I did the install was a coil spring compressor. I did it without and it took a lot longer than I wanted it to. Air tools can help in some spots but for the most part just my mechanics tool set worked fine.

My Jeep came from the factory with a SYE already installed so I can't help you on that one. The kit should come with a transfer case drop kit. You shouldn't run into any other problems such as brakes and steering other than a toe adjustment after the kit is installed. The kit should also come with bumpstop extenders and a rear trackbar relocation bracket.

As far as 33" tires, from looking at mine I would say you should be able to fit them on there but you're definitely going to have rubbing when turning full lock and on full articulation of the axles. I have heard people combining 1" spring spacers with the OME to gain enough room to fit tires but I just stuck with 32" tires and they work and look great with the OME kit.

The ride quality is great IMO on the road but really shines off-road. I've ridden in a few other Jeeps that run other cheaper kits and they seem to ride rougher. I have no complaints about the kit and the quality. I did buy the kit that comes with the Heavy Duty springs because I have a hard top and I have a winch on the way and didn't want it to sag too much when those are installed. Also I didn't want it to sag too much because of gear that I carry in the back on trips.

Also the kit comes with a few small spring spacers that help level out the ride left to right and front to rear. I had to use 2 of the spacers one in the front and one in the rear to get it to sit nice and level. That takes a little bit of time but in the end you will be happy if you fine tune it. Just take good measurements before and after the install and you will be fine.

I would definitely recommend this kit to the weekend wheeler who wants to maintain a great daily driver ride, and gain a little more height for some larger rubber. Any other questions you can shoot me a PM.
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Looking at OME (Old Man Emu) 2" lift for my '04 sport. The kit SEEMS to have everything I need to get this done. It says to allow 6-8 hrs for install. That time seems a little high, but okay will get other people opinions.
My Jeep doesn't go Mudding or even off road much-but with the spring droop that I have, figure may as well get better ride and 2 inch lift than just swapping out for stock ride and height-probably about the same price. with that much time to be involved will probably have a shop put it on... Now the questions.........

1) As this is a 2 inch lift and I am already running 31's, will 33's fit height wise? or will I need to do more than 2" lift and different wheels? Since I have a winch, aftermarket bumpers, and such, I did end up installing .75" spacers in front to handle the added weight.

2) What other parts should I maybe allow for? SYE? any chance I will run into other issues steering, brakes, or drivetrain?

3) About how much should I expect to pay for install? Or is this something that BASIC had tools will get me by?

4) Is it true OME has the best aftermarket STREET ride?

Thanks for your help-looking forward to hearing a lot of opinions.
1. 32's with just the lift. Add a 1" BL and 33's will fit fine. That's what I run.

2. SYE should NOT be needed for this lift, especially if you do the motor lift and body lift as part of the setup. If you don't do the motor lift, you may have slight driveline vibes that can be cured by lowering the t-case with washers. Steering issues? No, but you WILL want to do an alignment and recenter your steering wheel afterwards. Writeups for this available from Basic Jeep Front End Alignment

3. DIY with basic hand tools (socket set with common sizes), open ended wrenches, etc. You will need a floor jack of some type, and RENT spring compressors from Autozone (for free with refundable deposit).

4. Best is highly subjective. My tired 97 really felt 1000 times better with the new springs and shocks, despite the increased height. I'm VERY happy with it.

The OME kit is pretty complete for a basic lift. OF course you CAN add adjustable trackbars to recenter the axles, but with the 2" lift or so, they won't be off by much at all. You may also want to consider quick disconnects for the sway bar that will allow for the higher lift. Plus, if you go offroad, you'll likely want to disconnect these for better articulation.
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Ditto on renting the spring compressors! Other than that, basic tools are good! If you pay someone else to do it, it's gonna cost you!!
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Thanks for all the input-a lot of information for me to sort through and hurry up and wait for warmer weather-garage stays about 50* but may wait till Easter weekend so I can take my time and do it right. One more last question will it be time for a Highlift jack or can I continue to use standard factory jack for out on the road? Have floor jack for in the garage.
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Standard jack will still work for tire changes and such.

The hilift I have may get used offroad if the bottle jack can't meet the need.

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