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Old 04-19-2011, 02:13 PM   #1
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OME vs ZONE

Simple, go with a OME 2.5" lift or a Zone 4" lift. Need as much input as I can get

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what size tires and what year of jeep?

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Old 04-19-2011, 02:28 PM   #3
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A SYE kit and CV driveshaft is highly recommended for a suspension lift once you get to 4" or taller. In parts alone, that adds about $500. To that, adjustable length upper rear control arms should also be installed. They are needed to adjust the pinion angle to match the different pinion angle requirement of the CV driveshaft. Somewhere approaching a couple hundred $$$ for them. Hopefully Zone offers them as an upgrade so they may not be as expensive as that.
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The difference between 2.5" and 4" is oddly astronomical for a TJ. At 2.5" you'll want to go with 31/33 inch tires, and nothing else SHOULD be needed (unless you get vibes). At 4" as Jerry said you'll need to go with an SYE/CV kit, and you should be running 33/35 inch tires. You may also want some upper control arms to adjust the pinion angle as well.

Now both companies are good, OME has one of the top reputations for quality. Zone is more of a budget company, but for what they do as a budget company, they do it quite well. I still have yet to find an unsatisfied customer.
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My jeep is a 2001 with 32" tires on it now. I have the OME on it now but am thinking of upgrading. Guess I should have said that earlier. With that being said, would you stat with OME or go to a Zone?
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Dumb question but what exactly is a SYE kit and CV driveshaft? Also, the zone comes with lower control arms but says you don't need upper control arms, does this souls right??
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SYE=slip you eleminator. and a CV=constant velocity. instead of just having a drive shaft with two ujoint the CV has three. and the SYE does just that. it elemates you slip yoke. what all this does is it helps correct your pinion angle when you lift it and gets rid for driving vibration. i am saving to get the zone 3 inch lift my self. i would look into rough country if you are tryin to save money and get alot of lift and you dont mind a litter bumpy ride. that comes with adj conrol arms.
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A SYE is a Slip Yoke Eliminator and it does two things... 1) It shortens your transfer case so you can install a longer driveshaft which can better handle the steeper angles at the driveshaft u-joints that a taller suspension lift causes. 2) It gives the type of connection between the driveshaft and transfer case that the aftermarket CV driveshaft requires. It converts the transfer case's output shaft which has a "slip joint" the factory driveshaft connects via, to a yoke style output shaft that will hold the CV driveshaft's front u-joint it connects to the transfer case via.

The first drawing below for the "conventional two-joint driveshaft" does not show what your TJ actually has so don't let that confuse you on how it shows the two-joint u-joint connecting to the transfer case.

A CV driveshaft is a "constant velocity" driveshaft that works better for taller suspension lifts. It can work into steeper angles without the vibrations that the non-CV factory style drivehaft will develop.

Here are drawings of both types (CV vs. the factory style) of driveshaft which also show the different rear pinion angles required which is why adjustable length rear upper control arms are needed. The pinion angle can easily be adjusted upward with those arms to match the needs of the CV driveshaft.

And yes, you can get away without new lower control arms.
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Thanks guys. This helps out. I just have alot of research to do. Just don't know if I should keep what I have or go bigger?? Thanks again
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If you already have the OME 2.5", then you could just put a 1" or 1.25" BL on to fit bigger tires. Then you won't have to worry about the SYE/CV and still get around 3.5"-3.75" of lift total.
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all in what you plan on using it for and size of tires you want to run? i was in your spot a 2 months ago. i did ALOT of research and still kinda am.
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2.5" is all you need

OME is a great company, has had a great reputation, Zone is new and upcoming with a good rep as well, but the quality difference is there.

OME will be far cheaper off the get-go then the 4"
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If you already have the OME 2.5", then you could just put a 1" or 1.25" BL on to fit bigger tires. Then you won't have to worry about the SYE/CV and still get around 3.5"-3.75" of lift total.
and a 1.25 means a tummy tuck can be done
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I say keep the ome and throw on some currie control arms . Then add a 1 to 1.25 bl as stated above and finally add the rokmen skids for better protection and ground clearance!
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Old 04-19-2011, 06:03 PM   #15
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I just did an ome this weekend, rokmen arms, a tuck, sye. Jeep looks great. No experience with zone.
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Burton160: The zone 4" does not need any other parts, including the SYE. I just got off the phone with them a few minutes ago. And yep, I'm looking at the zone 4" with 33's. Can't wait.
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stay with ome to me thats downgrading and if your gona swap lifts, save for a lift thats non budget. im not cracking on zone, my lift is a zone 3 inch and its amazing, but if you already have an OME 2.5 which probably gives you more like 3, then why .spend the money. if you really need the size to fit tires or somehting get a 1 in BL. but I dont see the point unless your going to say 35s?
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Anyone got a picture of a 2" or 2.5" lift thinking about getting one just don't know if it's a good height or not. Really want a 4" but don't got 4" lift money!
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Anyone got a picture of a 2" or 2.5" lift thinking about getting one just don't know if it's a good height or not. Really want a 4" but don't got 4" lift money!
Wait save money and get the 4". I read many posts on here "should have" "wished I" seems to be lots of regret when you rush to get a lift on a jeep.
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Here is the ome from rokmen, gave about 2 3/4. It has the highline kit and 33's, ready for 35's. I don't see the need for a 4". You could do tube fenders, etc on an ome and run 35's and not need a ladder
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The zone 4" does not need any other parts, including the SYE.
4" is where a SYE and CV driveshaft becomes strongly (!) recommended. Many suspension lift retailers will claim it's not needed with taller lifts like that because they're afraid the buyer will not buy the lift if he knew up front that he'd also need a SYE and CV driveshaft. 4Wheel Parts does that all the time. The counter sales droid says "Nah you don't need a SYE" to get the sale. Then after they've installed the suspension lift and can't get rid of the vibrations, THEN they tell the customer that a SYE kit and CV driveshaft is required to get rid of the vibrations for another $600-700 in parts and labor. At that point, the customer is stuck with buying it or taking it home and adding more t-case drop and a MML, both of which are kludge fixes to the real issue of excessive driveshaft/u-joint angles.

YES you can sometimes (all Jeeps are different) get rid of the vibrations a 4" lift WILL cause by also installing a transfer case drop but even that is not usually enough. For most Jeeps, a 1" t-case drop is not quite enough to completely get rid of the vibrations a 4" or taller suspension lift causes so then you have to add a 1" motor mount lift too.

Not to mention the OE (factory) driveshaft becomes too short to reliably remain on the transfer case output shaft in some offroad conditions once you get to a 4" or taller lift height.

A SYE and CV driveshaft is the right way to handle the issues caused by a 4" or taller suspension lift. The other ways to do it are kludges at best and are really just a band-aid approach that I won't recommend for 4" or taller suspension lifts.
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LFD Firemedic,

I read through your recent threads, and I think you need to give Dirk @ DPG-Offroad a call. I personally think you are crazy to consider trading a OME for a 4" Zone.

Your money would be better spent on a 1.25" body lift, and a motor mount lift. Now you will be closer to the 4" you are looking for. The body lift will enable you to do a tummy tuck too. You could replace your control arms, and add spacers if you want to run 35" tires.

Call Dirk, he will help you set up your rig in a way you won't be disappointed.
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I read through your recent threads, and I think you need to give Dirk @ DPG-Offroad a call. I personally think you are crazy to consider trading a OME for a 4" Zone.

Your money would be better spent on a 1.25" body lift, and a motor mount lift. Now you will be closer to the 4" you are looking for. The body lift will enable you to do a tummy tuck too. You could replace your control arms, and add spacers if you want to run 35" tires.

Call Dirk, he will help you set up your rig in a way you won't be disappointed.
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Wait save money and get the 4". I read many posts on here "should have" "wished I" seems to be lots of regret when you rush to get a lift on a jeep.
My shocks are getting bad on my jeep so instead of buying stock ones or whatever why not spend a little extra to get a little lift. I don't see myself getting money for a 4 inch lift any time soon and I couple use a suspension upgrade so why not get a 2" till then. One I'm looking at is the RC 4" lift http://roughcountry.com/jeep_tj_4x.html that $999.99 but the upgraded 2.2 shocks and other things I wanted to get with the kit comes to about $1,300 and along with the 4 inch I would wanna run 33" and that's other million dollars there so if I get a simple 2" I'll keep the tires I got now.
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Caution that those 2.2 shocks are notoriously stiff riding.
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lfd firemedic,

i read through your recent threads, and i think you need to give dirk @ dpg-offroad a call. I personally think you are crazy to consider trading a ome for a 4" zone.

Your money would be better spent on a 1.25" body lift, and a motor mount lift. Now you will be closer to the 4" you are looking for. The body lift will enable you to do a tummy tuck too. You could replace your control arms, and add spacers if you want to run 35" tires.

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don't forget to set your bumpstops properly when installing the lift
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Thanks guys. Think I'm sticking with the OME lift and gonna get a 1.25" BL. Also some flat fender flares. My OME springs ate sagging and shocks getting old. That's why I was wondering if I should go back with OME or zone. After much research and post reading I'm staying with OME. Thanks to all for input.
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Thanks guys. Think I'm sticking with the OME lift and gonna get a 1.25" BL. Also some flat fender flares. My OME springs ate sagging and shocks getting old. That's why I was wondering if I should go back with OME or zone. After much research and post reading I'm staying with OME. Thanks to all for input.
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Wait save money and get the 4". I read many posts on here "should have" "wished I" seems to be lots of regret when you rush to get a lift on a jeep.
But I have yet to see a post from anyone who "shouldn't have" or "wished they hadn't" gone with OME.

The extra half inch you're going to gain with a lower-quality, 4" lift versus the OME 2.5 plus 1.25 body doesn't seem worth the money, or the sacrifice in performance, to me.

As always, to each their own.

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