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Old 07-14-2013, 11:18 PM   #31
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I have 33x12.5's and I like them. Nice and wide, I like the wide look to wranglers. The only complaint I have is hitting a decent puddle of water will shake you up a bit. I have 46k on mine and still have plenty of tread left. That being said I'm moving up to 35 Goodyear kevlars cuz I just threw a lift on.

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When I rebuilt my rig tires were by far the most difficult item to decide upon. I really do not ever want to research anything like that again if I am not getting paid for it.
I agree. The hard part for me is reframing everyone's opinions in a way that applies to me. I really appreciate everyone's insights, but it's hard to discern what are real issues or non-issues because environment, terrain, and driving style have to factor in. For instance, where I'm at in central Florida, I couldn't care less about snow performance, but I really need to have good rain performance.

Comments about specific problems are definitely helpful though. Like Bone-Saw's comment about hydroplaning on large puddles gives me something to think about. What I'd love to see is a side by side comparison of tires under fixed conditions like from on off road magazine.

Oh well... I should probably just stop whining and pull the trigger. I always choose wrong before I chose right, so keep an eye out on the 'for sale' forum and maybe you can buy my mistakes on the cheap

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Man you guys have some mean looking rigs. Mine looks like a sweet virgin princess comparatively

I definitely like the look of the 12.5s better (looks like a bulldozer), but I'm starting to see NJOs way of thinking. Between the worse gas milage, mud/rock spray off the tires, road noise, the rubbing potential, and price the 10.5s are starting to win out in my book.
I let logic and hands on experience dictate all my decisions. I always try and see the big picture before I make upgrade decisions on my rigs. And due to that I have NEVER had to buy "twice". I've been in too many TJ's which have 12.5's on em and experience riding in and being a passenger in those rigs have kept me to the 10.5" wide tires.

My LJ rig is literally a dual/all purpose vehicle. Its a daily driver(doing groceries, taking kids to school and events, chores around town etc), used for outings, camping trips etc, and 3-4 times a month goes on wheeling trips. So it gets a lot of use. My needs were for it to ride as good or better than stock(rides MUCH BETTER than stock)on the road, yet still be extremely capable for moderate/challenging off roading adventures. And it still had to be perfectly legal.

Up here in the NE that meant I had to be very smart on tire selection. The 10.5" wide BFG AT KO's perfectly fit the bill for day to day use and MOST wheeling trips(I have 35x10.5x15 Interco SSR's for those "extreme wheeling trips). The BFG's I run have no road noise, last forever, with great traction in wet and snowy conditions, yet are aggressive and sturdy enough off road to go pretty much anywhere I want. In fact over time and use spent with my club, we have found the 10.5" AT KO's consistently outperformed some of the TJ's and XJ's with 12.5" wide BFG MT's and the Goodyear MTR's up here even though the tread pattern is not as aggressive. And a lot of it has to do with the tires width and smaller contact patch.

In all fairness though, some of this is also due to the fact as well that my LJ has a bit more weight and better suspension geometry as well compared to some of those TJ and XJ's. But that is where careful "big picture" planning on upgrades etc. comes into play. I can say confidently that my rig has been setup extremely well with a lot of care and planning over the last few years.
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Oh well... I should probably just stop whining and pull the trigger. I always choose wrong before I chose right, so keep an eye out on the 'for sale' forum and maybe you can buy my mistakes on the cheap
Let logic dictate your decisions when it comes to upgrading your Wrangler. If you do that, 99 out of 100 times you will NEVER 2nd guess your initial decision.

Just like everyone else here, I want my rig to look cool/badass, but I always buy first and foremost products based on integration and performance............looks is always a distant 2nd. With that being said, the honest sweet spot for on/off road performance on a TJ is a 33x10.5" tire. The vehicle was originally designed around tires that are 9.5-10.5" wide. By sticking with that with the correct rim you don't have to worry about components rubbing against each other, or tires sticking out past flares(legality depending on state), or components prematurely wearing, or general ride quality and performance on and off road. My favorite TJ setup and I feel the best performing for the money setup is a TJ with 33x10.5's with a 2" suspension lift, 1" BL/MML and a good tummy tuck. These few mods done right make a night and day difference over a stock Wrangler in terms of offroading performance without affecting on road quality and feel. You can spend thousands of dollars more on a built up TJ with 35's and 37's etc and gain NOTHING whatsoever for off road potential, but lose a lot in terms of a DD.
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i have been trying to stay out of this convo since the beginning, but i feel some are pushing their own decisions and making wild claims.

most issues that have been stated for a 10.5 being better than a 12.5 are exaggerated or simply not true.

I'll give the 10.5 the nod in shallow mud 8"-16", where the narrower tire has an easier time getting down to the hard pack and gaining traction. other than that, i dont see any benefit. even in the above post, claiming that a smaller contact patch allowed more traction? only in a few circumstances, as in shallow mud. come play on the rocks or any dry area. a 12.5" tire has more surface area, which in turn means more contact. then air down and you have even more contact area. to claim that a 10.5 is simply a better tire is straight BS. like most things, there are pros and cons, if all you have is mud, then yes, a 10.5 may be the better option
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You can spend thousands of dollars more on a built up TJ with 35's and 37's etc and gain NOTHING whatsoever for off road potential, but lose a lot in terms of a DD.
this has me questioning your logic
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i have been trying to stay out of this convo since the beginning, but i feel some are pushing their own decisions and making wild claims.

most issues that have been stated for a 10.5 being better than a 12.5 are exaggerated or simply not true.

I'll give the 10.5 the nod in shallow mud 8"-16", where the narrower tire has an easier time getting down to the hard pack and gaining traction. other than that, i dont see any benefit. even in the above post, claiming that a smaller contact patch allowed more traction? only in a few circumstances, as in shallow mud. come play on the rocks or any dry area. a 12.5" tire has more surface area, which in turn means more contact. then air down and you have even more contact area. to claim that a 10.5 is simply a better tire is straight BS. like most things, there are pros and cons, if all you have is mud, then yes, a 10.5 may be the better option
So which claims and benefits I state are you questioning?

A. Narrower tires have less road noise compared to wider counterparts
B. Narrower tires have less issues with clearance, rubbing, or staying inside the fender flares
C. Narrower tires are lighter(more power transmitted to the road, and easier to stop, less wear and tear on components)
D. Better snow/wet/mud traction(smaller, narrower contact patch means more weight per square inch)


All of these granted "small" benefits add up. I originally swapped out my 12.5" AT KO's for the 10.5" counterparts and the day to day difference overall was very noticeable and worthwhile. And I didn't lose any performance in the dry rocks and terrain.
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this has me questioning your logic
That's probably because you think that bigger ='s better. Your wife/SO got you self conscious?

People can disagree with any of my claims and opinions and choose what they want for their rigs, but the opinions given will allow others to take things into consideration ideas and reasoning they might not thought of.
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You can spend thousands of dollars more on a built up TJ with 35's and 37's etc and gain NOTHING whatsoever for off road potential, but lose a lot in terms of a DD.
Other than approach, break over, departure angles, and suspension travel (flex).
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So which claims and benefits I state are you questioning?

A. Narrower tires have less road noise compared to wider counterparts
B. Narrower tires have less issues with clearance, rubbing, or staying inside the fender flares
C. Narrower tires are lighter(more power transmitted to the road, and easier to stop, less wear and tear on components)
D. Better snow/wet/mud traction(smaller, narrower contact patch means more weight per square inch)


All of these granted "small" benefits add up. I originally swapped out my 12.5" AT KO's for the 10.5" counterparts and the day to day difference overall was very noticeable and worthwhile. And I didn't lose any performance in the dry rocks and terrain.
a. please tell me how much road noise a 12.5" duratrac makes. i'm on my second set and they are and always have been silent. My old set of 12.5" kide bfg at's made some noise, but i account that to the ancient design

b. this is a moot point for most, aftermarket rims take care of the rubbing, and flare laws are only in a few states.

c. very minor in reality, unless you are running 3.07 gears or a 4 banger

d. this is true, but again, minor. its not like a 10.5" tire is a super skinny pizza cutter

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That's probably because you think that bigger ='s better. Your wife/SO got you self conscious?
ahhh, personal attack, i knew you sounded familiar. that always comes out when you have nothing useful to say


all of these things may be best for your scenario, but there isnt a single best flavor for a jeep, as you are trying to display.

all of those minor things in certain situations do not outweigh the benefits in others for the wheeling that i do
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Other than approach, break over, departure angles, and suspension travel (flex).
Really? What if your A/BO/D angles aren't the limiting factors? What about higher COG, stability, AS/AD #'s etc? And suspension travel/flex? Highly questionable. Its all in the details.
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Also if you are concerned about tire coverage get wider flares. As you can see in my above pic, my tires are fully covered and legal in any state. Again I'm not trying to make up anyone's mind just stating my opinion (as is the threads title). I love my Jeep and I have made it my own.
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Really? What if your A/BO/D angles aren't the limiting factors? What about higher COG, stability, AS/AD #'s etc? And suspension travel/flex? Highly questionable. Its all in the details.
which is another thing you left out when claiming that your rig on 33x10.5 bfg at's was passing guys on 12.5" mtr's and bfg mt's

its all in the details
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Really? What if your A/BO/D angles aren't the limiting factors? What about higher COG, stability, AS/AD #'s etc? And suspension travel/flex? Highly questionable. Its all in the details.
Not trying to get in a pissing match here. I wheel my Jeep pretty hard and she ain't been on her lid yet. Knock on wood.....
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a. please tell me how much road noise a 12.5" duratrac makes. i'm on my second set and they are and always have been silent. My old set of 12.5" kide bfg at's made some noise, but i account that to the ancient design

b. this is a moot point for most, aftermarket rims take care of the rubbing, and flare laws are only in a few states.

c. very minor in reality, unless you are running 3.07 gears or a 4 banger

d. this is true, but again, minor. its not like a 10.5" tire is a super skinny pizza cutter



ahhh, personal attack, i knew you sounded familiar. that always comes out when you have nothing useful to say


all of these things may be best for your scenario, but there isnt a single best flavor for a jeep, as you are trying to display.

all of those minor things in certain situations do not outweigh the benefits in others for the wheeling that i do
A. 12.5" wide duratracs make more noise than my 10.5" AT KO's.......I know this directly. My next door neighbor runs 12.5" duratracs on his JK unlimited. Enough so where its noticeable........the 12.5" wide BFG AT KO's make even more noise than the 12.5" duratracs.....I know and agree.....I used to run em. One big reason why I swapped em out to the 10.5" wides.

B. And offset rim can take care of most on road steering rubbing sure, but 10.5"s actually gain more clearance under the fender when flexing on uptravel and steering during uptravel, require a bit less lift/bumpstopping to fit properly. Again big picture kiddo.

C. Yes its minor.....but as I said.....small things add up. Big picture, remember that.

D. Read C.

Personal attack? Nothing useful to say? Really? Debating your points hasn't been hard, and Im sorry your skin is thin. I forgot you have no issues being part of some rib poking as long as its not directed at you.
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which is another thing you left out when claiming that your rig on 33x10.5 bfg at's was passing guys on 12.5" mtr's and bfg mt's

its all in the details
I didn't leave out anything, in fact it was mentioned. Obviously though, your reading skills lack.

But I'll requote what I said:

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In all fairness though, some of this is also due to the fact as well that my LJ has a bit more weight and better suspension geometry as well compared to some of those TJ and XJ's. But that is where careful "big picture" planning on upgrades etc. comes into play.
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Not trying to get in a pissing match here. I wheel my Jeep pretty hard and she ain't been on her lid yet. Knock on wood.....
No pissing match at all. I consider this friendly banter......and honestly we ALL can learn things here. Again, different points of view and debates are GOOD and all this info can only benefit the people who are reading it with interest. To know that my input and input of others(whether its my point of view or not)has helped make another member make a well informed buying decision for THEIR OWN NEEDS is good enough for me.
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A. 12.5" wide duratracs make more noise than my 10.5" AT KO's.......I know this directly. My next door neighbor runs 12.5" duratracs on his JK unlimited. Enough so where its noticeable........the 12.5" wide BFG AT KO's make even more noise than the 12.5" duratracs.....I know and agree.....I used to run em. One big reason why I swapped em out to the 10.5" wides.

B. And offset rim can take care of most on road steering rubbing sure, but 10.5"s actually gain more clearance under the fender when flexing on uptravel and steering during uptravel, require a bit less lift/bumpstopping to fit properly. Again big picture kiddo.

C. Yes its minor.....but as I said.....small things add up. Big picture, remember that.

D. Read C.

Personal attack? Nothing useful to say? Really? Debating your points hasn't been hard, and Im sorry your skin is thin. I forgot you have no issues being part of some rib poking as long as its not directed at you.
hahahaha, well once again you are giving whats best for your jeep. your opinion was stated on the first page, yet you feel the need to fight anyone that has a different one, claiming yours is the only correct one. and making insanely wild claims throughout your rants. its all good bro, doesnt matter to me one bit. the only reason i posted in this thread was to give the op a difference of opinion as reading your posts is like watching a michael moore documentary
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^ Read the last 2 posts #46,47........
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I agree. The hard part for me is reframing everyone's opinions in a way that applies to me. I really appreciate everyone's insights, but it's hard to discern what are real issues or non-issues because environment, terrain, and driving style have to factor in. For instance, where I'm at in central Florida, I couldn't care less about snow performance, but I really need to have good rain performance.

Comments about specific problems are definitely helpful though. Like Bone-Saw's comment about hydroplaning on large puddles gives me something to think about. What I'd love to see is a side by side comparison of tires under fixed conditions like from on off road magazine.

Oh well... I should probably just stop whining and pull the trigger. I always choose wrong before I chose right, so keep an eye out on the 'for sale' forum and maybe you can buy my mistakes on the cheap
I will likely be able to give you a first-hand report on the Destination A/Ts in FL rain tonight. 38 mile drove from work, mostly highway. We'll see what Mother Nature has in store.
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Firestone Destination A/T's handle just fine in the rain and mud. I ran them for a year before going to BFG's. My first trip in the Jeep was up to northern AZ because they had a bunch of rain & I wanted to go play. The treads will pack with mud a bit but I never got stuck and never completely lost traction. Driving ability and picking your routes plays a big factor there, though. The downside is they won't last as long as a BFG. You'll probably get 40-50k miles out of them with proper rotation but that seems to be about half of what the KO's get on average.
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I have the BFG KO's and have no complaints they ride smooth and no road noise to speak off and seem to last forever. I drive mostly on the road and sand. I have not used them in the mud but I can see how they may get clogged up. If I had to do it again I would by them again.
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Yeah, but




A: 12.5 float more in mud, and leave a bigger footprint

B: less chance of roll over beacause you are covering more clearance width wise

C:you dont really need bumpstop extensions unless you're going to do some serious bottoming out

D: its all in everyones own opinion.
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A: 12.5 float more in mud, and leave a bigger footprint

B: less chance of roll over beacause you are covering more clearance width wise

C:you dont really need bumpstop extensions unless you're going to do some serious bottoming out

D: its all in everyones own opinion.
A. You don't want to float in the mud. Reason why mud rigs use skinny tires.

B. Nope, that all depends on total track width/backspacing of rim and COG of the vehicle. You can run narrower tires and have a track footprint just as wide as wider tires. The track on my LJ is about 4-5" wider than a stock rig since I use rims with 3.5" BSing.

C. When you stuff one tire up a narrower tire has better overall clearance under the fender and flare, especially if you're running stock fenders. In my case though it doesn't matter since my up travel is not limited by the fenders.

D. Some things are opinion based(looks for instance), some points though are just facts.
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Well, the facts up here say that everybody around here runs a 12.50.
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10.5's are better in certain situations, but def not all. it depends what you will be doing. i hate mud and love the rocks, so a 12.5 is great for me. fenders dont limit my uptravel so thats not an issue. i am currently undergeared for my tires at 4.10s but am piecing together parts for 5.38, added to the 4:1 TC, and 12.5's fit my rig perfectly. the question is what fits your rig and your location
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Well, the facts up here say that everybody around here runs a 12.50.
A big reason why most run 12.5" wide tires is due to availability. Another reason too is just because you have a lot of people who run them just due to looks, not because they perform or integrate better necessarily. Personally, I could care less how "cool" my LJ looks, especially when Im inside driving when I can't even see em. My first concern is total integration and performance.........looks are very low on my totem pole.

The big downside with 10.5" wide tires is the fact that there are limited choices. 33" tires its not a big problem finding them. But 35"s and larger its almost non existent. My 10.5" wide 35" tires were $$$ to the tune of $350 each.......which is why I run them only when needed.
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Ion alloy wheels and bfg 33 12.5 r15

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Ion alloy wheels and bfg 33 12.5 r15
Those are the exact same tires and wheels I am running, except I have the white letters turned in. They ride and drive well so far.
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