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Old 10-26-2010, 01:53 PM   #1
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I'm starting to search for what will be my very first Jeep. I've been looking at TJs and found this one. I really like the color combo and the fact that it already has a lift installed. What do you guys/gals think? Thoughts about the lift? Anyone familiar with the seller?

Cars for Sale: 2005 Jeep Wrangler 4x4 X in Clemmons, NC 27012: Sport Utility Details - 288076187 - AutoTrader.com

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Old 10-27-2010, 12:05 AM   #2
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The jeep looks good to me. Check it out real good. If it were me I'd get a rubicon. That's about what I paid for my 04 rubi, both tops, auto, and had 41k on it. This was a month ago too. Those tires might not be a good combo if it isn't the dana 44 in the rear. Gl and get what u want.

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Old 10-27-2010, 10:32 AM   #3
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Too much $$$. I bet the dealer put the lift on for <$500 then jacked up the price $2000. I paid $19K for a 06 rubicon unlimited with dual tops and a 2.5" lift / 1" BL.
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Old 10-27-2010, 10:36 AM   #4
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Looks good to me. Looks like it's never been off road!!
The money is about right for the year and mileage and for one that clean.
I would take it on a long test drive and make sure it doesn't have any issues with the lift (death wobble, darty steering).
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Old 10-27-2010, 10:43 AM   #5
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I bought my 2006 Rubicon Unlimited with 50K for less than that less than a year ago. Keep shopping around
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Old 10-27-2010, 10:49 AM   #6
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I would pass, has a dana 35 rear axle, price is high of course, and lift is not a complete kit, still has stock upper arms, can't tell about front trac bar and 35's tires, I doubt the gears have been changed. For that kind of money get a rubi.
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That price is a little steep for an X. I would look a little more. When you buy pre-modified, you are never sure exactly what you are getting. Has it been re-geared? What lift was installed? Was it installed properly? I think that you could get into something a little newer or better (not that there is anything wrong with an X) for that kind of money.
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Old 10-27-2010, 11:17 AM   #8
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I think high for a non-Rubicon. I got a 2006 Rubicon 6 spd with 23k no modifications for $17,000.
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Old 10-30-2010, 02:38 PM   #9
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Thanks for all the great input. I really appreciate it. I think I might have gotten a little ahead of myself though. I've decided that I don't want to spend that much, but I'd still like to get a TJ. I'd like to spend no more than $10K if it possible to get something in good condition.

Any advice what I should look for? From what I'm reading the Dana 44 is the axle to have in the rear. What other help can you give me?

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Old 10-30-2010, 02:52 PM   #10
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Get a Rubicon if you can afford it.
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Old 10-30-2010, 02:54 PM   #11
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That one looked pricey!!! Got my stock garage kept owned by a little old man '02 Sport with the nice optional wheels and Dana 44 with 27K miles for 12900(thru jeep dealer). Still more than I wanted to spend, but it was in perfect shape... Keep looking.
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Old 10-30-2010, 03:11 PM   #12
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Unless it's a special edition (ie: Rocky Mountain Edition), all TJ "X's" come with a 4.0 (good) and D35 rear (bad). When I see a TJ go by with the "X" sticker, it reads "D35" to me. That's why I peeled my stickers off! However, I never broke my d35 because I left it open, only ran 33's, babied it, and luck was on my side. I still bought a used D44 for the Jeep though.

A D35 can handle 35" tires if it is upgraded (Superior Super 35 kit). Then, you have to address 35" tires on a stock D30, and gears, etc. etc.

For that kind of money, you can do way better. Get a Rubi, or an older TJ and use the savings for upgrades of your choice.

I am embarrased to say what I paid for my 2004 X back in 2006 with only 18,000miles. But, it was still way less than the one you are looking at. At least until I bought a D44, gears, lockers, chromoly's, SYE, TT, etc., etc., blah, blah, blah.

I should of bought an older one.
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Old 10-30-2010, 04:06 PM   #13
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IMO I think it is a little too much for that jeep, Though it is very nice. But I paid $12,100 for my 2005 rocky mountain edition with everything the same as that one, minus the lift and tires and 62,000 miles on it a 1 1/2 ago, the rocky mnt ed also has a dana 44 rear. But where you live that may be the going price. Whatever you decide, you will enjoy...Also you'll love the 6 speed.
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Old 10-30-2010, 06:28 PM   #14
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This is about the same 04-X for 6,000 less
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Old 11-01-2010, 01:00 PM   #15
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All good points. Thanks.

A Rubi is what I started out looking at, but I'm not willing to spend what I think it'll cost to get one. I'll keep my eye out though.

What amount of mileage should I consider too high? Are the TJs good for a few thousand miles?
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Old 11-01-2010, 01:18 PM   #16
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All good points. Thanks.

A Rubi is what I started out looking at, but I'm not willing to spend what I think it'll cost to get one. I'll keep my eye out though.

What amount of mileage should I consider too high? Are the TJs good for a few thousand miles?

price will vary, but used 03/04 rubi's around oh/ky/in run about 12-15k.
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Old 11-01-2010, 01:22 PM   #17
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All good points. Thanks.

A Rubi is what I started out looking at, but I'm not willing to spend what I think it'll cost to get one. I'll keep my eye out though.

What amount of mileage should I consider too high? Are the TJs good for a few thousand miles?
If you were willing to pay that then the Rubicon is within your reach. I don't mean the Rubi is more but the same price or less. Jeeps become cheaper the more it goes into winter from a dealership standpoint. They don't market it as a winter item but a summer must have.

Where do you live to have such high prices?
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I'm starting to search for what will be my very first Jeep. I've been looking at TJs and found this one. I really like the color combo and the fact that it already has a lift installed. What do you guys/gals think? Thoughts about the lift? Anyone familiar with the seller?

Cars for Sale: 2005 Jeep Wrangler 4x4 X in Clemmons, NC 27012: Sport Utility Details - 288076187 - AutoTrader.com

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Old 11-01-2010, 01:36 PM   #20
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FWIW, 2 weeks ago I came home with a 2005 Rubicon, hard top, near-new tires all around (including spare), trailer hitch with 22000 miles. $19.9k. It is like it was only used by the "little old lady" who drove it to the store on weekends. I looked it over as hard as I knew how to look at it to find something wrong, but couldn't. It seems jeep prices vary by location so you might want to look outside of your area as well. Good luck!
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Old 11-02-2010, 08:57 PM   #21
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I got my 05 with 43,000 miles, 4" rough country lift with dual steering stabilizer, 33" tires and teflon coated rims with completely herculined interior for $12,500. Havin to spend some money on the persons mistake of 4" lift and nothin else but with $5,000 i could re-gear, put a long arm lift on it and add the sye and cv driveshaft and still have some for new BIGGER tires.
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Old 11-03-2010, 12:21 PM   #22
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Thanks again for all the help. The $12,500 price is getting closer to what I'm going to be able to spend. Right now $10,000 is my max. I know that prices me out of a Rubicon and I'm ok with that. I know to look for the Dana 44 axle in the rear. Not sure whether to go manual or auto.

My concern is what is the amount of mileage I should stay away from. I know how well it is maintained is a factor, but how long can TJ go? 200,000 - 300,00 miles? I would imagine they're pretty bulletproof.

Oh...and what should I look out for if it already has a lift?

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Old 11-05-2010, 08:09 PM   #23
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I didn't even realize until last night that mine had a Dana 44 rear so I lucked out on that. Mine is an auto just because the wife has to be able to drive it and she swears she'll never drive a standard. If it's over 3" you're gonna need a Slip Yoke Eliminator and a CV Driveshaft, so be sure and look for that.
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Old 11-11-2010, 12:32 PM   #24
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loggs - That is a nice Jeep! Congrats on that finding that one. Sounds like a really good deal.

Thanks for all the tips (SYE, CV driveshaft, etc.). I'm still wondering about how many miles the TJs are good for.
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Old 11-11-2010, 01:35 PM   #25
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Well taken care of TJ's are good for well over 200k......
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hmm i got my 2006 65th anniversary edition with D44 and 3.73, dual top, with 44kmiles for 16,000

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