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Old 01-09-2012, 10:45 AM   #31
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You could always get a offroad bumper made of thicker steel and make a square cutout in the front of it and slide a reciever hitch in and weld it solid on the front and rear face. You would also want to brace it on the inside too. If I ever need a snow plow I was planning on doing that with my front bumper.

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Old 01-09-2012, 10:49 AM   #32
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The air bags wont go off with trailering, or anything other than an accident where they are supposed to go off. There are a couple really rare cases where they are triggered accidentally, but those are pretty extreme.

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Old 01-09-2012, 11:22 AM   #33
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The true irony is that as a deputy sheriff and as an emt, I've worked quite a few auto accidents that totaled the vehicle and hospitalized the occupants....but never deployed the bags....when you think it should have.

I know 1st gen bags required a 15mph frontal impact to actuate compression sensors...etc.

Now the 2nd gen bags are dual-stage to compensate for the speed of the impact; different bags deploy dependent on the location of the impact.

So all sorts of variables to take into consideration.

Jerry says the JK sensor is an accelerometer near the center console, so altering or replacing the bumper will have no effect.

I thought I'd be ok, but figured having yalls feed-back would be beneficial.

Accidental deployment would not only be expensive, but it'd be awfully embarrassing since I wouldn't even have any cool battle scars on the JEEP to tell stories about....just a shiney new wrangler....filled with white powder..with some sad looking sacks hanging out here and there.

Oh, and me standing nearby using words my momma would never have approved of.
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Old 01-09-2012, 11:36 AM   #34
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The true irony is that as a deputy sheriff and as an emt, I've worked quite a few auto accidents that totaled the vehicle and hospitalized the occupants....but never deployed the bags....when you think it should have.

I know 1st gen bags required a 15mph frontal impact to actuate compression sensors...etc.

Now the 2nd gen bags are dual-stage to compensate for the speed of the impact; different bags deploy dependent on the location of the impact.

So all sorts of variables to take into consideration.

Jerry says the JK sensor is an accelerometer near the center console, so altering or replacing the bumper will have no effect.

I thought I'd be ok, but figured having yalls feed-back would be beneficial.

Accidental deployment would not only be expensive, but it'd be awfully embarrassing since I wouldn't even have any cool battle scars on the JEEP to tell stories about....just a shiney new wrangler....filled with white powder..with some sad looking sacks hanging out here and there.

Oh, and me standing nearby using words my momma would never have approved of.
I would strongly urge you to try and fit a 15" rim onto the wheel hub and see if it clears the brakes before you make the purchase. Especially with the Unlimited and how easily you can get them up to weights that readily overpower the stock units.
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Old 01-09-2012, 11:57 AM   #35
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I would strongly urge you to try and fit a 15" rim onto the wheel hub and see if it clears the brakes before you make the purchase. Especially with the Unlimited and how easily you can get them up to weights that readily overpower the stock units.
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Old 01-09-2012, 12:01 PM   #36
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wrong thread?
Right thread.

He was referring to a prior post in THIS thread where-in I stated that I intended to trade my stock 18" tires and wheels for something more useful.
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I don't know, you tell me since you've adopted the proofreading position, he said this in post 13.

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I think so too.....but I'd hate to make a $2000 assumption

Max, im planning to get rid of my stock 18" wheels and tires and go for something less "city-slickerish" I like your 15" black steels, what brand?

I'm also considering coopers to replace my Bridgestones. I had coopers on my suburban and loved em.

I'm moving to Seattle soon. How do you like your coopers on wet pavement?
Since I'm currently in the process of developing 2 larger brake kits for the JK and part of that challenge on the smaller of the two is fitting them inside the stock 17" rims, I thought he should know to do a test fit before mounting tires since that typically makes them much harder to return.
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Old 01-10-2012, 08:08 AM   #39
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Is it going to be on a roadway where you could put other people in danger if your load gives out?
Yeah, those crazy Jeepers pushing trailers from the front of their Jeeps at high speed down the highway are just a menace. Sorry, couldn't help myself.
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Yup. Front hitch.
I use it as a tug to move an airplane into and out of the hangar.
Not MY plane. I'm just the pilot.
Like I said...easy-rolling load....200' tops....never more than 5mph usually closer to 1-2mph.
It light enough that I can almost push it by hand.....but as I said, I'm a pilot....and that means I'm inherently "energy conservative"




(some folks translate that as "lazy")


Obviously you're going about this all backwards. You simply need to get a smaller airplane, like My Challenger II, then you can move it by hand.

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Jerry says the JK sensor is an accelerometer near the center console, so altering or replacing the bumper will have no effect.
I'm shocked that it took this long for this information to come to light, and I intended to post it had you not. Probably because everyone knows Bransford is a TJ guy, and we're in the TJ section, so none of the JK'ers looked at the thread.

As Unlimited noted, there's really no support for what you're wanting to do, like there is on a TJ.
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Old 01-10-2012, 10:41 AM   #42
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I don't know, you tell me since you've adopted the proofreading position, he said this in post 13.
Nope, right thread. I missed that post and you quoted something non related that made it seem out of context. Good luck on your brake kit!
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Jerry says the JK sensor is an accelerometer near the center console, so altering or replacing the bumper will have no effect.
As said above, I'm a TJ guy and barely recognize a JK when I see one so I don't know where the JK's air bag sensor is. I actually didn't even know or at least notice it was a JK you were asking me about in your PM. I thought you were asking about a TJ, especially since your name is TJ-Newbie. I will still assume that even the JK's air bag sensor is not on or near the bumper however.
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As said above, I'm a TJ guy and barely recognize a JK when I see one so I don't know where the JK's air bag sensor is. I actually didn't even know or at least notice it was a JK you were asking me about in your PM. I thought you were asking about a TJ, especially since your name is TJ-Newbie. I will still assume that even the JK's air bag sensor is not on or near the bumper however.
It's not, there is a part in the front left of the newer jk's with the pentastar. I believe it is some type of brake assist, it has to be relocated to fit aftermarket bumpers.
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"energy conservative" ,I really like that one
When I am speaking to my wife I use the term "convenience enthusiast"

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