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Old 10-28-2016, 11:20 PM   #1
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Plan for a LJ

Step 1 - Purchase a LJ

Step 2 - install this kit OLD MAN EMU COMPLETE KITS: 2” 1997-06 JEEP WRANGLER TJ HEAVY KIT SPORT (OMETJHKS)

Step 3 - install new wheels and 32" tires

Step 4 - Install front bumper, winch, and sliders

Step 4 - enjoy some midwest trail riding while contemplating adding a 1.5" Body Lift

Is this plan solid, or am I missing something?
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Old 10-29-2016, 12:06 AM   #2
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Get a complete lift like this http://dpgoffroad.com/products/old-m...-wrangler-kit/ or this Jspec 2" Suspension System, 1997-2006 Wrangler TJ plus add the 1.25 body lift with motor mount lift.

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Old 10-29-2016, 01:06 AM   #3
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Don't forget to replace the transfer case shift linkage bracket to one that mounts on the transfer case only. The factory one is attached from the body to the transfer case. When you do a body lift, it will screw up the shift linkage and you won't be able to get it into 4 wheel drive, or you will and it will keep shifting out by itself.
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Unless it is an 04 where only LJ is automatic

Expect endless woes from transmission 6spd or auto

Expect OPDA failure and possible damage to cam gear and don't use a oem replacement need Dorman as jeep never fixed their design flaw

Expect gas to burp out every time you fill
Up until you an a GM part as jeep don't care about 05-06 and never chose to fix any of its problems


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Old 10-29-2016, 01:40 PM   #5
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Sounds to me like step #1 needs to be completed first.
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Old 10-29-2016, 02:21 PM   #6
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Unless it is an 04 where only LJ is automatic

Expect endless woes from transmission 6spd or auto

Expect OPDA failure and possible damage to cam gear and don't use a oem replacement need Dorman as jeep never fixed their design flaw

Expect gas to burp out every time you fill
Up until you an a GM part as jeep don't care about 05-06 and never chose to fix any of its problems


It will be an auto and I am currently looking at an '04. How many of these things will be an issue then?



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Here's what your finished product will look like:

2006 LJ, 2.5'' OME HD lift, sliders, bumpers, winch, on rubi rims 32.5'' tires (265/75/16).

OPDA replaced and have a typical grind in 2nd gear with my 6spd. I would recommend (and intend) on doing a tummy tuck.


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That looks good. Do you have a body lift also? What is a tummy tuck?


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[QUOTE=doug494;27864009]That looks good. Do you have a body lift also? What is a tummy tuck?


No BL. A tummy tuck is a way to reduce or in some cases, remove the trans "shovel" skid. LJ's have poor break over angles which results in the shovel coming in contact with obstacles frequently while wheeling (even light wheeling depended on lift size). Here is the ultimate link that will answer all your Q's about Tummy Tuck (TT).

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I have an 05 auto LJ no issues 94k miles. The OPDA issue is present in some Jeeps but I think the internet makes it much worse than it is. Not knocking those with issues but every year of Jeep has had some sort of " oh no not that....." Enjoy the LJ and fix what it needs when it needs.
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Here's what your finished product will look like: 2006 LJ, 2.5'' OME HD lift, sliders, bumpers, winch, on rubi rims 32.5'' tires (265/75/16). OPDA replaced and have a typical grind in 2nd gear with my 6spd. I would recommend (and intend) on doing a tummy tuck.
That is an awesome setup you've got and is pretty darn close to how I want my LJ to look. Did you have any issue with the 265/75R16s and was there any reason you went with them over the 285/75R16s? I'm struggling with appropriate tire size for my 2.5" OME lift.
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That is an awesome setup you've got and is pretty darn close to how I want my LJ to look. Did you have any issue with the 265/75R16s and was there any reason you went with them over the 285/75R16s? I'm struggling with appropriate tire size for my 2.5" OME lift.

No issues with the tire/wheel setup. I cant really remember what made me spring for the 265's. It may have been price, fuel economy, proper gear load, or tire rub potential- not really sure, sorry. I will share that at full flex (disco'd) and at a slight turn of the wheel I rub the front flares just a smidge. I have to replace my fenders in the spring (god help us in the rust belt) and will likely go for flat fender flares and later upgrade to a 285.

As for this "smaller" build, I favor having a lower COG. This height is perfect, I think, for a daily driver and weekend explorer.
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Same basic setup with 285/75/16 KO2's

1.25 BL
2.5 HD OME Lift

still need to do a tummy tuck and MML
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I would recommend 255/85r16 over either the 285/75 or 265/75. And definitely put the tummy tuck on your to do list somewhere down the line if you plan on doing more than light trails. Also a novak transfer case shifter will make life more pleasant especially if doing the tummy tuck. Here is my setup with 2" BDS springs, 1" BL, 255/85r16 tires, and a tummy tuck
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Sounds to me like step #1 needs to be completed first.
Step 1 done

'05 LJ, 1 owner with 97,000 miles with factory hard and soft tops and no rust. Ran great and true at 75mph on the 2 hr interstate drive home.
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Step 1 done

'05 LJ, 1 owner with 97,000 miles with factory hard and soft tops and no rust. Ran great and true at 75mph on the 2 hr interstate drive home.
Congradulations. What did you pay for it if you dont mind me asking? Also I'm in the ND/MN area and noticed you said you were in the midwest...where are you from?
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Pictures and details???

My 05 LJ Rubihara is currently undergoing RMS oil pan gasket replacment....What a PIA it is proving to be
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Only 1 good pic to upload.

Purchased on Southern Illinois for about $14K. Dealer said it was owned by a young woman who had received it new at age 16/18, so hopefully just local usage/grocery getter. Looks to be fairly well kept. They said they had to change a pinion seal when she traded it in.

I'd been looking for about 3 months to find one that suited my needs.
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That's a good find!! Congratulations!!


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I would recommend 255/85r16 over either the 285/75 or 265/75.
Great looking rig! I definitely agree that 255/85R16 is the way to go with that setup. It's just a shame that more manufacturers don't make that size anymore. Here's my LJ with the exact same setup sans tummy tuck . . .
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Here's my LJ on 31" KO2's with a 1.5" Rough Country lift and 1.5" BL. I added wheel spacers to restore full turning capability and recently replaced the OPDA. This is how it will look until I install enough lift to accommodate 35's.



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Congrats! Mileage not bad. Auto or manual?

If you stick with your original lift kit plans, get some good sway disco's for when you do go off road.
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No issues with the tire/wheel setup. I cant really remember what made me spring for the 265's. It may have been price, fuel economy, proper gear load, or tire rub potential- not really sure, sorry. I will share that at full flex (disco'd) and at a slight turn of the wheel I rub the front flares just a smidge. I have to replace my fenders in the spring (god help us in the rust belt) and will likely go for flat fender flares and later upgrade to a 285.

As for this "smaller" build, I favor having a lower COG. This height is perfect, I think, for a daily driver and weekend explorer.
I'm running that exact tire size (KO2's) on my 2.5 in lift with the Rubicon (Moab) wheels, no spacers. I get a mild hit to the control arms at full lock. Also at full jounce (diso's disconnected) I have rubbed the paint off the spring tower.

Are you seeing the same thing ? ( I asusme those are stock Moabs 5 in B.S. and not the Quadratecs that have 4.5 in BS) ?

I can't even imagine the 285/75's on the Moab rim.
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That's a good find!! Congratulations!!

Great looking rig! I definitely agree that 255/85R16 is the way to go with that setup. It's just a shame that more manufacturers don't make that size anymore. Here's my LJ with the exact same setup sans tummy tuck . . .
X3 on the 255s. Gotta love them skinnies!
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I'm running that exact tire size (KO2's) on my 2.5 in lift with the Rubicon (Moab) wheels, no spacers. I get a mild hit to the control arms at full lock. Also at full jounce (diso's disconnected) I have rubbed the paint off the spring tower.

Are you seeing the same thing ? ( I asusme those are stock Moabs 5 in B.S. and not the Quadratecs that have 4.5 in BS) ?

I can't even imagine the 285/75's on the Moab rim.
They actually are the Qtec version Moabs. The only rubbing I experience is on the fender flares at slight turn full flex disco'd. But, that will be corrected once the 1.25'' BL goes in.
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They actually are the Qtec version Moabs. The only rubbing I experience is on the fender flares at slight turn full flex disco'd. But, that will be corrected once the 1.25'' BL goes in.
The extra 1/2 in the Qtec Moabs give is huge and make the 265's feasible. They claim that they will fit 285's at that B.S. as well. I didn't believe them until I looked at the actual published tire and tread width for the 285 KO2's and KM2's and the tire width is almost the same. Course I haven't actually tried it.

You shouldn't need a 1.25 in BL to clear 32 inch tires. What bumpstop are you running on the front ? 1 inch should do it.
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Nice LJ's everybody! Congratulations Doug494 on your find too! I beginning my search for an LJ too, I'm looking to do a GM LS conversion and a D60 front GM 14 bolt rear in an LJ and get rid of my 04 TJ...

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The extra 1/2 in the Qtec Moabs give is huge and make the 265's feasible. They claim that they will fit 285's at that B.S. as well. I didn't believe them until I looked at the actual published tire and tread width for the 285 KO2's and KM2's and the tire width is almost the same. Course I haven't actually tried it.

You shouldn't need a 1.25 in BL to clear 32 inch tires. What bumpstop are you running on the front ? 1 inch should do it.
I have 1'' currently.
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I had a 2.5" OME kit and a 1.25" body lift and mml on my LJ. Was a great setup to run 33s while maintaining as much low COG as possible.
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Y'all with the 2.5" lifts, what is your "safe" highway speed?

Can you comfortably/safely cruise at 75mph?

Y'all's look awesome and I am looking at doing a lift but I need to be able to do 75 on the highway.

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Sure. With a good lift and steering components in good condition you can do 75 no problem.

You'll also need to have proper gearing for your tires or you'll be fighting to keep it st speed.

Tires really make a bigger impact than the lift. Run a wide set of 33x12.50 on wheels with 3.75" backspacing, for example, and you'll feel all the ruts and road imperfections and they'll pull your vehicle around.

Stay with more of a OEM tire width and you'll have a more manageable ride at speed.

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