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Old 03-10-2012, 08:05 PM   #1
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Planning a 5.5" Clayton LA lift and 35's - Help me cover all bases

Hi All,

New to the forum, hoping to get some pointers from you all concerning my upcoming lift (2 months away).

Lifting a stock 2005 Rubicon TJ.

I'm currerntly planning the following:
1. Clayton LA lift 5.5" (no stretch)
2. Blistein 5100's
3. Goodyear MTRs 315/75 R16 (plan on keeping my stock MOAB rims)

Things I'm concerned about.

1. Will I be too tall at 5.5" and 35's for all purpose offroading . . . nothing specific here . . . mud, snow, rocks, lake, moon. . .

2. "while I'm at it . . ." - I don't have any underarmor other than my stock shovel plate. However - since I'm doing the Clayton lift, I no longer have any budget to buy anything nice for skid plates. Any considerations here you all would suggest - what should I target to protect, and what could I do it for $?

3. Since I'm moving to 35's, I am imaginging the spare 35 will tear my back door off after the first or second bump . . . again with the claytons I have no money . . . what's a good low cost solution for a tire bumper you all would suggest? I got my front bumper on ebay (this guy) - I'm now convinced this might be a total POS.

4. I'm doing the lift myself to save money after the stupid claytons . . . I've heard I need to modify my muffler but can't find any specific instructions anywhere - is this something I need to take to midas or something and can't do in my driveway?

Lastly where is the best place to buy tires??? I'm seeing lower cost tires online, but I'll still have to ship and mount those. . . is there no win with tires . . .just take a hit and go have goodyear or discounttire install?

Thanks! Here's my jeep (before winch and bumper install) FLEXING!! Booh yeah!

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Old 03-10-2012, 11:47 PM   #2
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Good thing you have a Rubicon. Your axles can take the 35's. You also must look at steering upgrades before your tie rod turns into a pretzel. Also may want to upgrade your front brakes. For the spare a 35 will mess up your tail gate. Either by a tire carrier or make your own. Also good thing you have a rubi because you have 4.10 gears. You will lose some power but are better off than most.

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Old 03-10-2012, 11:57 PM   #3
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Your installing it yourself? encase you didn't know it requires welding to the frame and axle.

For the exhaust they do make tail pipe kits for long arms. or do what I did. Move the cat as far forward as you can then get a smaller muffler that will go where the cat was. Then put a down turn after the skid.

For skids UFC makes them for 260.
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Old 03-11-2012, 09:59 AM   #4
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Steering, brakes, armor, brake lines....I could go on.

BTW, that's awfully tall for a SWB Jeep, especially if you'll be raising the belly at all in the future. It's like the rear CV will bind before full droop (yeah, you'll need a double cardan drive shaft as well). Also, with the low pinion front axle, it'll be tough to get pinion angle set right while also maintaining enough caster. You really need to think of staying lower and still addressing the components in the right way--you can do that without longer arms.

It doesn't even appear you have what I consider the 'basic' armor--steering box skid and an oil pan skid.
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Thanks for the responses so far

Let me sum up:
1. yes understood welding, have that taken care of
2. 4.10 gear ratio is at the low end of what you'd want with 35's, but still workable. for now I'm good with that.

What I'm hearing that I haven't thought of:
1. Double cardan drive shaft? - is that just an extention? The mechanic I'm also working with said we'd do a "Tom Wood's shaft with upgraded style yoke" - that would cover your issue Imped?

2. Steering upgrades . . . can anyone point me to a good solution you use or would suggest?

3. Armor - yes, I have no armor (other than stock). I hadn't not thought of this, but it was a "if I can afford it" kind of thing. I'm now rethinking that I need to afford it but to cover all the needed items I am seeing another $700-$1000 . . . (now I'm considering selling my jeep and buying a cheaper car . . . like a Prius).

I have no tools to make my own items . . . so I'm pretty stuck buying stuff on market. I have a friend that is going to do the small amount of welding for me.

As for the longarm - I want to go this route as I don't want to lose any drivability, and I pull a couple seadoos in the summer.
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Educate yourself more before you spend money. If you want to cover ALL the bases with parts that don't suck, you'll need to spend more than an extra $1,000. As for your concern of arm length--that's a non issue. Educate yourself, use some common sense, and don't listen to idiots on the internet that don't know anything. All you'll get from that are statements that go something like, "long arms fix everything."

Totally false. More to it than that.
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You can go long arms without getting that much lift.

Look at the Currie steering kit.

Hope you trust the guy welding that stuff holds your axle inplace.

For the mean time you could go to a junkyard an get roof rack bars and put the stairs there.

The tom woods driveshaft would be the cv shaft we are talking about. Btw you have a Rubicon and already have a fixed yoke tcase. Don't let him try to sell you an "upgraded yoke".

Teraflex oil skid 90 steering box skid 50-60.
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You can run 35s on 3" lift 1.25" BL and tube fenders. Would cost less than the Clayton kit. With enough left for skids.

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