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Old 02-19-2012, 07:42 PM   #1
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Please help...after SYE installed

Ok... Prior the SYE install I shifted the Jeep into 4WD/Low according to the instruction. After I installed the AA SYE and UCF ultra high clearance belly pan tummy tuck. The 4WD shifter will not go back down to 4WD/High or 2WD. It seems to be stuck. I drove it back and forth several times thinking it might free up the shifter but no luck.

I will order the Tom Woods DS tomorrow.

Any ideas anyone? Thanks

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Old 02-19-2012, 07:50 PM   #2
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Linkage bound up. Did you relocate the floor mounted bracket ? If not with the belly up it wont line up with the case side of the linkage bracket. I used an AA relocation bracket on mine eliminating the floor piece .

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I did not do anything to the floor mounted bracket. Do I need to get the AA relocation bracket or can I just use the stock and modify it to work?
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Old 02-19-2012, 07:59 PM   #4
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BTW...I have 1" Brown Dog MML and 1.25"JKS BL installed if that helps.
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You might be able to modify the stock bracket. The AA bracket eliminates the floor bracket and mounts all the linkage off the case . Cost me $40, I think it is worth it, the stock design sucks .
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I just did the same install today..installed Advance Adapters SYE, Tom Woods CV shaft and a UCF ultra high clearance skid. I also installed a Novak TC shifter, and i must say this is one of my favorite mods, its something small, but shifting into 4low is 100x easier..this might be what you need. Only thing i need to do after the install is adjusting my pinion angle with the adjustable control arms.
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Old 02-19-2012, 08:13 PM   #7
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Do I have to remove the bellypan to install the AA bracket? The belly pan is PITA to take off and install. I can't find any write up of how to install this linkage.
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Might be possible but may be more of a pain than dropping the plate.
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Linkage bound up. Did you relocate the floor mounted bracket ? If not with the belly up it wont line up with the case side of the linkage bracket. I used an AA relocation bracket on mine eliminating the floor piece .
x2, after installing my tummy tuck, I needed the Novak cable shifter. Fixed the problem.
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Old 02-19-2012, 08:17 PM   #10
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I just did the same install today..installed Advance Adapters SYE, Tom Woods CV shaft and a UCF ultra high clearance skid. I also installed a Novak TC shifter, and i must say this is one of my favorite mods, its something small, but shifting into 4low is 100x easier..this might be what you need. Only thing i need to do after the install is adjusting my pinion angle with the adjustable control arms.

Sweet...I still need to order my Tom Woods CV shaft. Do you have any instruction on how to adjust the pinion angle? I have the Savvy aluminum UCA's.

My new ds length is 17"-171/4" what is yours?

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x2, after installing my tummy tuck, I needed the Novak cable shifter. Fixed the problem.

Wow...$180 for the kit. How difficult to install the kit? Any instruction on it?
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Might be possible but may be more of a pain than dropping the plate.

Darn...that is what I am afraid of. Thanks
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Wow...$180 for the kit. How difficult to install the kit? Any instruction on it?
Yes, but trust me, its worth it. The 4WD shifts like butter and it is very very simple to install. I have a ton of pics in my build thread on it. If its one product I recommend, its that. Savvy also sells it.

http://www.novak-adapt.com/catalog/shifters/sk2xc.htm
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I have the AA transfer case relocation bracket. It has been working great for years. But, last spring I installed my UCF skid, the AA bracket came in contact with the tub. I had to bend some sheet metal under there to make the necessary room. It was a PITA. I also have a 1.25"BL/MML.

Get the Novak. I should of bought one when I did my TT. The added cost would have been worth it.
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As far as the AA kit, it is a simple bracket the uses the stock bell crank. You need to replace 2 bolts for the t-case with all thread studs. The bushing plate needs to be relocated to the new bracket from the floor bracket ( that also needs removed). Not much to it. I'm not a fan of cable operated stuff here in the rust belt. The instructions from AA are pretty straightforward .
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yeah it will be a lot easier removing the skid, and install is very simple. And adjusting the pinion angle to avoid vibes can be done by adjusting your adjustable control arms.

2003x- hows do you like the HP30? i can get an HP30 out of an 09 jk for free, only thing is i would have to get new axle tubes, and brackets to fit it on my tj
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2003x did you have to modify the exhaust after the UFC TT? Mine is touching the tub underneath.
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yeah it will be a lot easier removing the skid, and install is very simple. And adjusting the pinion angle to avoid vibes can be done by adjusting your adjustable control arms.
Do you have to have the rear axle off the ground to adjust the UCA?
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I just ordered the Novak SK2XC cable shifter, I hope Gerald will send it out soon.
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I just ordered the Novak SK2XC cable shifter, I hope Gerald will send it out soon.
You'll love that shifter...well worth the money.
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2003x- hows do you like the HP30? i can get an HP30 out of an 09 jk free, only thing is i would have to get new axle tubes, and brackets to fit it on my tj
Its a great axle. Strong and holds up well with my 35s.
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2003x did you have to modify the exhaust after the UFC TT? Mine is touching the tub underneath.
No, the exhaust was not touched at all and does not rub. I did read that some had to modifiy the exhaust hangers due to what you are describing.
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Do you have to have the rear axle off the ground to adjust the UCA?
Yes. i had the Jeep on a lift and used two HD tall jack stands to help support the axle to adjust the control arms. And i did hear my exhaust rattling around when at full flex, so im gonna have to find some kind of adjustment for that such as new hangers, or lowering the UCF skid and adding in the 1/2" pucks that were between the frame and old skid plate.

One other problem i had was the fan...it was hitting the housing because of the 1" MML, so i just did a little trimming for now.
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Yes. i had the Jeep on a lift and used two HD tall jack stands to help support the axle to adjust the control arms. And i did hear my exhaust rattling around when at full flex, so im gonna have to find some kind of adjustment for that such as new hangers, or lowering the UCF skid and adding in the 1/2" pucks that were between the frame and old skid plate.

One other problem i had was the fan...it was hitting the housing because of the 1" MML, so i just did a little trimming for now.
Ohhhh....I forgot to check mine. Thanks for the heads up.
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No, the exhaust was not touched at all and does not rub. I did read that some had to modifiy the exhaust hangers due to what you are describing.

Thanks, I will have to modify mine for it to work, since it is rubbing the tub and the rear right shock.
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Yes. i had the Jeep on a lift and used two HD tall jack stands to help support the axle to adjust the control arms.

How many degree(s) difference did you set yours to from the sye to the diff?
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Difference at diff yoke to driveshaft should be 1 to 2 degrees down on the diff side.... No more than that.
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Difference at diff yoke to driveshaft should be 1 to 2 degrees down on the diff side.... No more than that.

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I just ordered the Novak SK2XC cable shifter.
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You will love it.
Yeah, I just called Savvyoffroad and they will start to ship all their orders out on the 24th....bummer!

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