OK I have probably started something here with this winch thread, but I need some real information about winches. I have a 2002 TJ and I need a winch, but before I sink a lot of cash into one I would like some real experiences people have had with theirs. With what I have read, which is about 50 hours of reading I still don't know which winch is better. I heard Viper is the best, Warn is the best and Gorilla is the best so on and so on. I have also heard that all those that I mentioned, about how bad each and everyone of them were. Man I'm more confused now more then ever. Please can someone here give me some real advise. I'll explain what I'm looking for in the following. I want a 8000 lb to 9000 lb winch in a good price range, lets say $250 - $750 range. I want reliability more than anything. I off road quit often and I'm more likely to get stuck in the mud then any were else.Thanks for the help!