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Old 02-07-2012, 07:18 PM   #31
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Its amazing she has a rotted frame.The body is pretty solid other than the spot of surface rust
How is the frame searching going? As said above don't get discouraged, you will find one. I'm sure you already thought of this but that rust scab below the door could easily be covered with some rocker guards. That way your killing two birds with one stone. Just grind it down to bare metal, prime it and through some paint on there. It doesn't even matter what color as the area will be covered anyway.

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You bought a Jeep for $1500? In most places, ANY running Jeep of any year, will at least sell for $4k. Did it seem strange to you that it was soo cheap?

Anyway, the body looks pretty decent, though, I can see some other rust issues on the front windshield which could be pretty problematic and on the front bumper and wheels. Those are signs of rust in other places.

I think this could be an ideal project car especially if you could do the work yourself. I bet if you put $3k in this thing for parts and clean it up yourself, you will get all that back and more. But, to pay someone to do the work, and you might be better off finding another Jeep. Finding stock bumpes and stock rims is easy and cheap. Painting the milk jugs and fenders takes only a few hours and a few bucks.

If it were me, I would keep researching the frame issue, and put it up for sale at the same time. List it go for $4500 and see what happens. If you get a buyer, you just made money.

Paying a $1000 to ship a frame is insane. I paid $750 to ship a Jeep from NE PA to LA once. I also paid $200 to ship a motor half way across country. When it comes to shipping, you have to be patient. Find a shipper and allow them to complete a load....tell them you are not in a hurry.

Jeep frames are not that hard to find.

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Take some pictures of the underside.
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looking at the pic, I can see rust on the tub (isnt that a weird spot for rust?) and the front of the frame.

However, that hard top is probably worth $800, the lights $40, and who knows what other parts are on there. He could part that thing out for a profit, easy. Totally worth it to put in a new frame, if it's running and he really paid what he said.

Edit: I also see rust on the windshield hinge and the rear wheel. I cant imagine what the frame looks like
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Old 02-07-2012, 09:00 PM   #35
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Not sure what part of NY you are in but my neighbor sells mega tj parts and he's about 45 minutes over the border in NEPA 18335. He has frames.A tj frame will fit in the bed of a full size pick up 8 foot bed with the gate down.He does not answer emails, only his phone....kman
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looking at the pic, I can see rust on the tub (isnt that a weird spot for rust?) and the front of the frame.

However, that hard top is probably worth $800, the lights $40, and who knows what other parts are on there. He could part that thing out for a profit, easy. Totally worth it to put in a new frame, if it's running and he really paid what he said.

Edit: I also see rust on the windshield hinge and the rear wheel. I cant imagine what the frame looks like
That was exactly my thought. If you can see the rust in those places, that underside has to look like Swiss cheese.
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Old 02-07-2012, 09:15 PM   #37
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Not sure what part of NY you are in but my neighbor sells mega tj parts and he's about 45 minutes over the border in NEPA 18335. He has frames.A tj frame will fit in the bed of a full size pick up 8 foot bed with the gate down.He does not answer emails, only his phone....kman
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Too funny.I spoke with him a few days ago & he has a mint frame for $500.00.Hes about 3 hrs away from me so I put some money down on it & going Sat to check it out.He says its one of the cleanest frames hes had.
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Too funny.I spoke with him a few days ago & he has a mint frame for $500.00.Hes about 3 hrs away from me so I put some money down on it & going Sat to check it out.He says its one of the cleanest frames hes had.
Cool...You will be happy with it....Cole gets some nice solid jeeps out of NYC and NJ that he parts out.I'm trying to get him to get YJ's but he wont budge...he hates 'em
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try this

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site:craigslist.org jeep tj frame

http://syracuse.craigslist.org/pts/2838588702.html
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Too funny.I spoke with him a few days ago & he has a mint frame for $500.00.Hes about 3 hrs away from me so I put some money down on it & going Sat to check it out.He says its one of the cleanest frames hes had.
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Too funny.I spoke with him a few days ago & he has a mint frame for $500.00.Hes about 3 hrs away from me so I put some money down on it & going Sat to check it out.He says its one of the cleanest frames hes had.
Congrats.
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Well if that one doesn't fall through, here's another one for 500$ in my area he is even looking for trades. You might want to ship it since it is in Cali. But good luck with your search.

http://redding.craigslist.org/pts/2823621568.html
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Old 02-08-2012, 12:41 PM   #43
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Here in NC there are frames on craigslist all the time. There is someone on CL in NC right now with a "clean straight no rust" frame for $500 and someone selling a total TJ minus engine/trans for $1500. I hate seeing my fellow WF people needing stuff that I see around here for cheap all the time...Sorry.
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Thanks for the responses everyone.What kills everyone up here is the shipping to get it here.If this frame turns out to be as clean as he says Im extremely happy to get it for $500.00.He said it is from down south so for the money I cant beat it since I only have to spend a total of 5-6 hrs to avoid a $800-$1000 shipping fee while getting a southern frame
Ill post pics of it.i never thought Id get soo excited about a frame lol..
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You bought a Jeep for $1500? In most places, ANY running Jeep of any year, will at least sell for $4k. Did it seem strange to you that it was soo cheap?

Anyway, the body looks pretty decent, though, I can see some other rust issues on the front windshield which could be pretty problematic and on the front bumper and wheels. Those are signs of rust in other places.

I think this could be an ideal project car especially if you could do the work yourself. I bet if you put $3k in this thing for parts and clean it up yourself, you will get all that back and more. But, to pay someone to do the work, and you might be better off finding another Jeep. Finding stock bumpes and stock rims is easy and cheap. Painting the milk jugs and fenders takes only a few hours and a few bucks.

If it were me, I would keep researching the frame issue, and put it up for sale at the same time. List it go for $4500 and see what happens. If you get a buyer, you just made money.

Paying a $1000 to ship a frame is insane. I paid $750 to ship a Jeep from NE PA to LA once. I also paid $200 to ship a motor half way across country. When it comes to shipping, you have to be patient. Find a shipper and allow them to complete a load....tell them you are not in a hurry.

Jeep frames are not that hard to find.
The rust on the windshield is on the hinges.A wire wheel,primer & black paint will take care of that.
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If it makes you feel any better, you could always make $1k for the hardtop alone. That is if you choose not to replace the frame.
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The rust on the windshield is on the hinges.A wire wheel,primer & black paint will take care of that.
Yes and well, maybe. The rust on the rims is an easy fix, what I am trying to say is that on a Jeep, there are certain places that are prone to rust, and other places that are not so much. Hinges rust on a lot of Jeeps. But, when you see rust on bumpers, on the hinges, on the tub, and on the rims, the thing likely looks bad on the underside.

Me? I would toss the rims and pick-up some new ones. You can buy very nice after-market rims for $400...probably sell the stockers as is for $100. Or, you can go through the effort of grinding, blasting, painting.....nothing wrong with that either. Would save your $300 and you only spend your time.

The rust on the mirror may be a problem because if you fold that mirror down, it could be a lot worse then it looks....then again, maybe not.

A lot of folks replace their hinges. Mine are all gun metal stainless except for the rear door, but I am going to replace that one too. Then, they never rust. IMO, painted hinges is just rust waiting to happen. The paint prevents them from, rusting....in therory, but sooner or later, water makes it's way into the hinge where there is no paint and blamo....rust.

On the positive side, you only paid $1500 for it. If the you just want something to knock around and enjoy, it will work as is unless that frame is as bad as you say, then it needs to be dealt with.

Once you are done doing the swap, you will also likely find other issues along the way. This will give you are great opportunity to either swap out, swap out and upgrade, or clean-up and keep. If you are really budget minded and come across say some badly rusted control arms, you could replaced all of them for about $700 with upgraded after-market ones, or put a post here asking for stock, clean control arms. Chances are someone might give them to you just for shipping costs.

Same goes for springs, shocks....etc.... People will give you stock parts, or nearly give you stock parts all day long. For example, you are welcome to my stock springs if you want them....that is if the ones you have are bad and two good, front shocks.

With a little work and some creativity (and the generosity of others) you could have this puppy looking new and it would be worth many times what you paid. More importantly, you will have the pride knowing that you did it.....anyone can get a loan, buy a new Jeep and drive it around like they own it. But, I have a LOT more respect for a guy like you who is willing to return this Jeep to it's former glory.

If you need anything, and I have it....it is YOURS. Any stock parts I have laying around are doing no one any good. They don't need to sit in my garage or in a landfill.

In fact, I would challenge anyone else her to help you with that too.
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Wondering if you should get a 2nd opinion on your frame rust with the consideration of replacing bad sections. I understand this place has a pretty good rep and sells the parts:

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I have the same side rust below the door and will drop the belly pan this spring to see how bad the frame is.
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someone had mentioned renting a uhaul truck and driving to get it yourself. i didn't even think of this idea. it's a good one though
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Yes and well, maybe. The rust on the rims is an easy fix, what I am trying to say is that on a Jeep, there are certain places that are prone to rust, and other places that are not so much. Hinges rust on a lot of Jeeps. But, when you see rust on bumpers, on the hinges, on the tub, and on the rims, the thing likely looks bad on the underside.

Me? I would toss the rims and pick-up some new ones. You can buy very nice after-market rims for $400...probably sell the stockers as is for $100. Or, you can go through the effort of grinding, blasting, painting.....nothing wrong with that either. Would save your $300 and you only spend your time.

The rust on the mirror may be a problem because if you fold that mirror down, it could be a lot worse then it looks....then again, maybe not.

A lot of folks replace their hinges. Mine are all gun metal stainless except for the rear door, but I am going to replace that one too. Then, they never rust. IMO, painted hinges is just rust waiting to happen. The paint prevents them from, rusting....in therory, but sooner or later, water makes it's way into the hinge where there is no paint and blamo....rust.

On the positive side, you only paid $1500 for it. If the you just want something to knock around and enjoy, it will work as is unless that frame is as bad as you say, then it needs to be dealt with.

Once you are done doing the swap, you will also likely find other issues along the way. This will give you are great opportunity to either swap out, swap out and upgrade, or clean-up and keep. If you are really budget minded and come across say some badly rusted control arms, you could replaced all of them for about $700 with upgraded after-market ones, or put a post here asking for stock, clean control arms. Chances are someone might give them to you just for shipping costs.

Same goes for springs, shocks....etc.... People will give you stock parts, or nearly give you stock parts all day long. For example, you are welcome to my stock springs if you want them....that is if the ones you have are bad and two good, front shocks.

With a little work and some creativity (and the generosity of others) you could have this puppy looking new and it would be worth many times what you paid. More importantly, you will have the pride knowing that you did it.....anyone can get a loan, buy a new Jeep and drive it around like they own it. But, I have a LOT more respect for a guy like you who is willing to return this Jeep to it's former glory.

If you need anything, and I have it....it is YOURS. Any stock parts I have laying around are doing no one any good. They don't need to sit in my garage or in a landfill.

In fact, I would challenge anyone else her to help you with that too.
I appreciate the offer & I will take you up on that If I need to,thanks again.Ive already got new springs & shocks (2in) and will have new G/Y Duratracs soon,rims also.
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someone had mentioned renting a uhaul truck and driving to get it yourself. i didn't even think of this idea. it's a good one though
Ive got a trailer that will work & a XJ to get me there
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ha! you could probably drive somewhere below the salt belt for a new frame and it might be cheaper. just a little bit of math. mpg, $pg and distance there and back
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btw what tools are necessary for a frame swap? i will need to do this eventually. i would imagine you need i lift or hoist for the engine, 4 frame jacks, a quick jack to drop the tranny and ahoist to lift the body. i'm assuming you also need a crapload of Kroil/PB blaster,a grinder/cutting wheel, a boatload of bolts etc, i'm also assuming that there may be more prep work than just spraying your bolts down a few times a few days before you start the project. am i missing anything? thanks
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I just had a frame swap done on my 2006 LJ and it was only $1300.00 for the frame and complete swap out.
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I just had a frame swap done on my 2006 LJ and it was only $1300.00 for the frame and complete swap out.
Wow a frame swap on an 06 already?
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Well got back with it. It came with a welded on bumper that looks pretty freakin tough.





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Cool...You will be happy with it....Cole gets some nice solid jeeps out of NYC and NJ that he parts out.I'm trying to get him to get YJ's but he wont budge...he hates 'em
Cole was really cool.Yeah,he hates YJ's. I like his green Rubicon.He showed me his garage & warehouse.Very cool.We had a Daschund party.We brought our two and he has one also.Too funny.Ill def call him If I need something.Id recommend him to anyone who needs parts.
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Did I lose everyones interest? LOL.
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I am watching. Where are you located?
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