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Old 09-07-2011, 10:41 PM   #1
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Possibly complicated lift questions

I have a 1998 sport model. Right now it is mostly stock. I just put the Dynomax cat-back on it and I have a Badlands 9000K winch. I picked the Badlands winch because there was an article in one of the off-roading magazines ( I think Peterson's) that said the engineers from Mile Marker designed the Badlands winch and for the 5 times I will ever use it, it was good enough for me.

So I have the winch on the front and the nose in down about 3/4 of an inch to almost and inch below the back. Now I want to add a lift, nothing big or expensive because I rarely go off-roading. I am open to all options but I want to level the Jeep out. I am also getting new tires, probably Goodyear Duratracs since I am going to work for Goodyear, but I don't want anything bigger than 33's. I was leaning towards 31's because I have to get a small child in the Jeep and more in the future.

So to keep it short, I want to level my Jeep, put a small lift on it and add bigger tires and it still has to fit under a 7 foot (84 inch) garage door. I currently have 30x9.5x15 Goodyear GS-A's. What is the best way to accomplish this as affordably as possible?
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Old 09-08-2011, 11:45 AM   #2
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Simply putting a spacer up front will level things back off. I put a 1.25" spacer on my front end after adding a winch and it brought the Jeep back to level (actually even more level than OEM setup was). If you then elect to lift things later on, go for it, but you can comfortably fit 31-10.50-15 or 245-75-16 without a lift.

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So to keep it short, I want to level my Jeep, put a small lift on it and add bigger tires and it still has to fit under a 7 foot (84 inch) garage door. I currently have 30x9.5x15 Goodyear GS-A's. What is the best way to accomplish this as affordably as possible?
There are a couple ways to "level" the Jeep. Some throw 3/4"-1" spacers up front, and this fixes the "level" at ride height, while the jeep is sitting still. I ran spacers like this for a while. But, I removed them and went to springs only. Here's why:

Leveling spacer's don't address the root of the problem - the spring rate. You've added more weight to the front end - whether its a bumper, winch or both. Spring rate is measured in pounds per inch - they compress a given amount for a given amount of weight. If you add weight to the front end, they not only drop when the Jeep is sitting in your driveway, but they also cycle up and down as you're driving down the highway. Too low a rate for the weight will change the ride and cause the Jeep to bottom out more. So you change the spring rate to compensate for the weight - just like 1 ton trucks pull a 5th wheel and 1/2 ton trucks don't.

Since you want to do this cheap, I'd suggest looking into swapping to ZJ V8 front springs, or XJ front springs. Either new MOOG springs or used from the junkyard. Due to the heavier motor, V8 ZJ springs have a higher spring rate. XJ front springs are a bit longer, but supposedly the same rate.

It's the same amount of work either way, might as well address it right. When you lift the Jeep, you also want to take the heavier weight into account - thats why companies like Old Man Emu make multiple spring rates for different weight requirements.
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