Power steering gear replacement - Jeep Wrangler Forum
Jeep Wrangler Forum

Go Back   Jeep Wrangler Forum > TJ Jeep Wrangler Forum > TJ General Discussion Forum

Join Wrangler Forum Today


Reply
 
Thread Tools

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on WranglerForum.com
Old 02-13-2012, 04:48 PM   #1
Jeeper
 
Srider42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 37
Power steering gear replacement

First off thanks to everyone who has been so helpful with all my questions. How difficult is it to change the power steering gear? Dealer wants 600 and the Firestone on base wants 400. It's it something I could do with a Haynes manual and little experience or is it something that I should pay for. Thanks guys

Srider42 is offline   Quote
Old 02-13-2012, 05:27 PM   #2
Jeeper
 
scot68's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Mesa, AZ
Posts: 478
Quote:
Originally Posted by Srider42 View Post
First off thanks to everyone who has been so helpful with all my questions. How difficult is it to change the power steering gear? Dealer wants 600 and the Firestone on base wants 400. It's it something I could do with a Haynes manual and little experience or is it something that I should pay for. Thanks guys
Yes definitely, the only specialty tool you need is a Pitman Arm puller and you can rent one from Autozone. Not sure what direction you are going with your Jeep but you might want to consider upgrading to a Dodge Durango or PSC box.

scot68 is offline   Quote
Old 02-13-2012, 05:36 PM   #3
Jeeper
 
Srider42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 37
I will give it a shot. I assume an alignment would be necessary afterwards. And how bad could I screw it up haha. Thanks again
Srider42 is offline   Quote
Old 02-13-2012, 05:55 PM   #4
Jeeper
 
Plowboy1970's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Burlington WI
Posts: 1,187
What year is your Jeep? Early ones use a cheaper box. Later ones use an expensive Mercedes box. It is not hard at all. No alignment needed. But when you are done you will have to make an adjustment to center the steering wheel.
Plowboy1970 is offline   Quote
Old 02-13-2012, 06:03 PM   #5
Jeeper
 
InvertChaos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: NoVa
Posts: 7,935
I've heard a Durango junk yard box is a nice upgrade. Never done it though.
__________________
|2004 Jeep TJ "Green Machine"|4.0L 5 speed Dana44|33x12.50x15 Goodyear Duratracs|2.5" RC coils + 1.25" body lift|OME NitroSport shocks|4.56 gears|Skid Row Engine Skid|BCC Sliders|Currie AntiRock|
InvertChaos is online now   Quote
Old 02-13-2012, 06:15 PM   #6
Jeeper
 
Srider42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 37
It's a 99.
Srider42 is offline   Quote
Old 02-13-2012, 06:18 PM   #7
Jeeper

WF Supporting Member
 
Sccafire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: 82 miles from the Rubicon Trail
Posts: 811
If you do it yourself, place a ratchet strap on the brake pedal to the steering wheel. This will keep the steering wheel from moving and possibly messing up the clockspring.
__________________
Scott
Sccafire is offline   Quote
Old 02-13-2012, 06:25 PM   #8
Jeeper
 
Srider42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 37
Thanks scaafire for the tip any else I need to know
Srider42 is offline   Quote
Old 02-13-2012, 06:58 PM   #9
Jeeper
 
Plowboy1970's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Burlington WI
Posts: 1,187
You got the early box. I did mine last year. $150 from autozone. Follow this...

Steering Box Replacement - 1
Plowboy1970 is offline   Quote
Old 02-13-2012, 09:03 PM   #10
Jeeper
 
Srider42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 37
Thanks I'm going to attempt it. Ordered the gear and gonna rent the pitman arm puller. Hope the pitman Arm cooperates.
Srider42 is offline   Quote
Old 02-13-2012, 09:15 PM   #11
Jeeper
 
Plowboy1970's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Burlington WI
Posts: 1,187
It will cooperate. Just tighten it up and give it a hit. Tighten more and give a hit. Eventually it will pop. And it will POP!!!!! Hardest part was getting to the lock collar on the input shaft. Now would be a good time to suck all the old fluid out of the pump. And remember, jack up the front and fill the pump up with PS fluid and turn lock to lock many times to remove the air from the system. You have an autozone near you? If not try other places. They can be had for under $200 Good luck. Any other question just ask.
Plowboy1970 is offline   Quote
Old 02-13-2012, 09:20 PM   #12
Jeeper
 
Srider42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 37
Thanks and the jack is a requirement for adding the fluid?
Srider42 is offline   Quote
Old 02-13-2012, 10:31 PM   #13
Jeeper
 
Plowboy1970's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Burlington WI
Posts: 1,187
Quote:
Originally Posted by Srider42 View Post
Thanks and the jack is a requirement for adding the fluid?
Makes it more easy to turn the steering wheel lock to lock to purge the air out of the lines. And do not run the engine when doing this. You will burn up the pump.

And like stated, do not turn the steering wheel when you have the box disconnected. There is a spring in the column for your horn and airbag and cruise control if you have it. If you spin the wheel the spring will snap and you will have hundreds of dollars of problems. I put my seat belt through the lower part of the wheel and locked it.
Plowboy1970 is offline   Quote
Old 02-14-2012, 05:38 AM   #14
Jeeper
 
Srider42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 37
Ok that's what people have been saying not to turn the wheel. I have heard seatbelt or tie down to the brake pedal. Thanks a lot. Hope it goes smoothly. Will let you know Friday haha
Srider42 is offline   Quote
Old 02-14-2012, 08:47 AM   #15
Jeeper
 
Victor Ward's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: 763
Posts: 61
Quote:
Originally Posted by Plowboy1970 View Post
It will cooperate. Just tighten it up and give it a hit. Tighten more and give a hit. Eventually it will pop. And it will POP!!!!! Hardest part was getting to the lock collar on the input shaft. Now would be a good time to suck all the old fluid out of the pump. And remember, jack up the front and fill the pump up with PS fluid and turn lock to lock many times to remove the air from the system. You have an autozone near you? If not try other places. They can be had for under $200 Good luck. Any other question just ask.
On the Stuoffroad write up he said something about when the Pitman arm pops that sounded kinda scary to a novice like me. What exactly happens?
Is it hard to get the Pitman on to the new gear box?
Im from the Minneapolis area with 161000 on my 2000. Did you run into any problems that will be specific to us in the north with this project?
Victor Ward is offline   Quote
Old 02-14-2012, 05:15 PM   #16
Jeeper
 
Plowboy1970's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Burlington WI
Posts: 1,187
Quote:
Originally Posted by Victor Ward View Post
On the Stuoffroad write up he said something about when the Pitman arm pops that sounded kinda scary to a novice like me. What exactly happens?
Is it hard to get the Pitman on to the new gear box?
Im from the Minneapolis area with 161000 on my 2000. Did you run into any problems that will be specific to us in the north with this project?
I did mine from Wisconsin. 125K miles. Soak down the three bolts that hold the box to the frame. The pitman in on a tapered spline shaft. You have to break the interference locking of the parts. Be ready to pull your hands clear. It can pop off with force. Easy to get the pitman on. Slip it on the splines, tighten nut. It is keyed so you can only put it on 4 different ways, if I remember right. It is not hard if you can change a shock. It takes more knowledge than changing oil.
Plowboy1970 is offline   Quote
Old 02-17-2012, 08:44 PM   #17
Jeeper
 
Srider42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 37
Broke 3 pitman arm pullers today trying to do the work myself. Ended up going to a garage. Mechanic said that the advanced auto pitman arm puller were junk that's why I broke them. Haha the guys at the parts store were upset. They said I cost them 220 buck today. O well haha
Srider42 is offline   Quote
Old 02-17-2012, 08:53 PM   #18
Jeeper
 
Kevbz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: O'Fallon, MO
Posts: 1,637
Quote:
Originally Posted by Srider42
Broke 3 pitman arm pullers today trying to do the work myself. Ended up going to a garage. Mechanic said that the advanced auto pitman arm puller were junk that's why I broke them. Haha the guys at the parts store were upset. They said I cost them 220 buck today. O well haha
I was wondering how they would deal with that...
__________________
Per Mare, Per Terram...Semper Fidelis
Kevbz is offline   Quote
Old 02-17-2012, 11:01 PM   #19
Jeeper
 
Srider42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 37
Ya but the tools said lifetime warranty. They rented out cheap stuff so it broke. Manager thought I was misusing the tools but I took a pic showing him I wasn't. Lesson learned I guess
Srider42 is offline   Quote
Old 02-23-2012, 05:28 PM   #20
Newb
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1
To srider42,

How long did it take you and any issues? I need to do mine also.
nomaamus is offline   Quote
Old 02-27-2012, 06:01 AM   #21
Jeeper
 
Srider42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 37
I never got it done myself. Since the tools kept breaking I took it too a garage. The mechanic there told me he had no trouble and that the pitman arm puller from there was junk. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful

Srider42 is offline   Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
TJ Power Steering Gear Box removal RyanM1979 TJ General Discussion Forum 27 03-24-2014 10:05 PM
04 TJ Steering gear input leak chewymcdipp TJ General Discussion Forum 2 05-12-2011 07:34 PM
Power steering/ Steering upgrade CJS98TJ TJ General Discussion Forum 6 04-28-2011 10:35 PM
Steering gear box adjustment MLaborde TJ General Discussion Forum 7 04-19-2011 08:45 PM
Power steering box leaking TJeepman TJ Tech Forum 9 10-28-2010 07:08 PM



Download our Mobile App

» Network Links
»Jeep Parts
» Featured Product

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:48 PM.



Jeep®, Wrangler, Liberty, Wagoneer, Cherokee, and Grand Cherokee are copyrighted and trademarked to Chrysler Motors LLC.
Wranglerforum.com is not in any way associated with the Chrysler Motors LLC