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#1 ·
Okay so my samples finally arrived which means today I finally committed 100% to a jeep spice interior and my monstaliner is on order. With that being said, I've run into a few questions that in all of my reading haven't been answered - at least not directly. For the record this is on a 99 TJ with remarkably little rust.

1) I've realized one of the previous owners bedlined the foot wells (or 3 of them - for some reason the rear driver's side went untouched?) so how necessary is it to strip the old stuff entirely? Or would just abrading it with 120 grit like the rest of the tub do just fine?

2) there are orange patches on the bedliner that's in the passenger's side foot well and obviously it looks like rust. I've sanded it down a little though and it looks like it was sitting on the surface of the bedliner. I've sanded down to bare metal in a couple spots where the orange rust-looking stuff was and it seems rust-free. What gives?

3) I know it's pretty obvious that you should remove bolts and hardware you may want to be able to remove in the future. So my question is: if there's no foreseeable reason to remove them is painting over them still a dumb idea? And on that note: how likely is it that if I add on to my roll cage in the future with a bolt-on assembly I'll need to loosen/remove any of the bolt/bars

4) the bolts screws on the floor that aren't attached to anything obvious: should these come out while I line the jeep? Or can I paint over them without issue? Also the same question about the four on the right side of the driver's foot well. I assume those have something to do with the transfer case so would painting over them cause issues in the future if I go to drop it or replace it?

Thanks in advance guys. I really just want to do this right the first time so I don't run into problems in the future, but I'm also still learning so I'm full of probably-dumb questions.
 
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#2 ·
You should just be able to scuff with 120 on any painted or lined surface.

As far as taping off or bedlining over various bolts, obviously any bolts you know will need to come out at some point would be much more convenient to remove if you tape then off. I rolled over the ones along the transmission hump, taped most of the rest. Worse case if you line over something you need to get out, you just hammer on a socket, just like if it was painted over, since it basically is, just really durable paint :)
 
#5 ·
Awesome, thanks! You seem to be coming to my rescue with answers a lot lately :worthy:

I feel like anything I'd need to remove in the foreseeable future is something I've removed already (seats, seat belts, rear seat brackets and their bolts, etc). If the little screws in the bed aren't likely to need removing (I have no idea what they're for but they're lil so can't be that important?) I'll probably just roll over them. At this point I think I might roll over the roll cage bolts too. I'd rather have a nice seal over those while they're in place than leave them uncovered and just a little more vulnerable to rusting. But I still have a week and a half or so before the liner gets here so who knows, I might change my mind yet again. :D
 
#4 ·
It's on there pretty good. I've pulled the drain plugs that were sealed off with the little metal plates and painted over, so will have to scrape/sand those spots down now because between whatever rubbery stuff they used to seal 'em and the old liner there's some lifting (understandably) and I want to get that gunk off anyway. But there's no flaking or peeling, thankfully. The bedliner wasn't put in poorly, just a) not the colour I want and b) nowhere near complete coverage
 
#6 ·
I just did mine a month or so ago, and had all the same questions :) I rolled over all the cage stuff. Not sure about the little bolts and screws, all the ones I took out had things attached to them, or I knew what they used to hold. There's some small screws on the passenger side that were for the jack handle tiedown, I just took them out and lined over. Theres also a single snap for the carpets under each seat, I took them out and taped the holes.
 
#7 ·
Oh yeah, one other thing to consider if you got the 1gal kit... I lined the entire tub inside, including the rails, and the roll bars up to the level of the rails, and I ran out of liner, so my 2nd coat was thinner than id like in spots, I could have used another quart, but easy enough to touch up.



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#8 ·
Yeah I'm not at all educated in the realm of vehicles/mechanics but I am generally mechanically inclined so I'm pretty good for following connections and such to figure out how a connects to b, etc. Which is to say I've been able to determine what most of the bolts and stuff were for (this has been an excellent toolbox building project too), but the little screws remain a mystery :) I'd forgotten that was what the snaps were for! Guess those can come out tomorrow too.

Funnily enough I went back and forth on ordering an extra quart today remembering someone (I think it might actually have been you) had said the single gallon was a little tight but not wanting to have that much excess lying around. Ended up ordering an extra quart to be safe. :D
 
#9 ·
Hi all, if my products arrive on time, i will be doing my tub during labor day wkend. I started the sanding of the tub yesterday, my question is how much sanding do i do, when do i know that enough is enough. Thx for the help. Sorry to butt into your thread but i thought the topic was related. :)
 
#10 ·
My understanding is that we're just trying to remove the clear coat and create an abraded surface for the liner to grab ahold of - I've done bits of sanding in areas I've been especially worried about being problematic and from what I've read with their instructions, once the "gloss" is gone you're good to go. Depending on the colour of your jeep this may be more or less obvious (I read that with lighter colours like yellow it's harder to see when your clear coat has been sanded away, but with dark colours like the black in mine it has been pretty obvious)
 
#19 ·
just tore everything out, cleaning today, sand and acetone wash tomorrow and rolling on saturday! Any bolts that could come up I took out, minus the rollbar bolts. Rollbar replacement is many years down the upgrade list so I am not really concerned about it. I wouldn't roll over the four in the driver area though, in case you do a novak shifter upgrade or have any other reason to tinker in that area.
 
#20 ·
I'm pretty sure I'm going with Poison Spyder cage additions rather than a whole new one but that's not for another year at least anyway - would rolling over the cage impact welding in any way? I'm clueless about welds.
I just had my novak shifter cable installed earlier this week and those bolts seem to have gone untouched... or do you mean the transfer case itself? I'm not really clear on what those four are attached to. My main issue is this: if I remove them to get a clean roll to the edge of the holes (because anything I leave in I'm painting over, not around) and then replace the bolts I also have to worry about whatever is on the underside of those bolts coming loose/hanging free in the mean time and knowing *what* to put back *where*. But I'm not clear on what they're attached to and whether it's a part I'm going to likely need/want to replace at some point so it's not even rally a value judgement I can make atm.
 
#21 ·
anything that would at a point of welded needs to be bare metal, but no welding elsewhere shouldn't be affected by the monstaliner.
those four bolts should have been attached to side of your stock t case linkage...
they also hold the bracket for the novak cable shifter.. did you not install it yourself?
 
#22 ·
So I'll just have to strip the spots to be welded when the time comes? Works for me.

Nope, had a local mechanic install it. I had intended to myself until I actually got under my jeep and realized how difficult reaching my linkage was. I know even just popping it back in required a long screwdriver for leverage and a lot of inexact prodding. I don't know what the stock skid plates look like (I've read a lot about them having insufficient coverage, so maybe a PO upgraded) but I know that I would not have had a good time trying to install the cable myself trying to reach and maneuver with my skid plate in place. Seems to me though that the cable/linkage is set further back under the jeep than where those four bolts are? I'll take another look, maybe I'm out of it.
 
#24 ·
Saturday's the day! Kit arrived late and damaged (thank you UPS) on Monday so my patience has been really put to the test.

Anyway, my last wash down of the tub left a gritty residue and clearly isn't clean enough yet so does anyone have any pointers for getting this thing clean? I don't have access to a hose which seems to be a huge drawback, but could use a pressure washer in a bay (which last time also left fleks of dirt residue on my dash and doors too) or trek a bucket up and downstairs from my apartment if I have to...
 
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