Had an old Ramsey 8k on my 97 TJ when I bought it last year. It was so slow reeling in. Decided to go with the Warn VR 10k model, and am very happy with it. Have had to use it twice already in deep snow, and it did the job. Found it on Amazon with free shipping, no Cali tax for $579, had a $80 rebate from Warn and sold the old Ramsey for $150. So into a new Warn 10k winch for $379 with the Warn reputation etc. Also at the same time mounted control switches for the winch inside the cab, which makes it easier than draging the cord out when winching.