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Old 08-24-2013, 08:06 PM   #1
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Propane Conversion

I'm looking to convert my Jeep to propane how much would this cost me? is it easy to do, and I'm not concerned about gas mileage or power, I just want to be the guy that can say his Jeep runs on propane.

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Old 08-24-2013, 08:32 PM   #2
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Your looking at 3 to 4 grand for a EPA approved conversion installed. We did 3 for a local municipality a couple years ago ( Chevrolet trucks ) they've since decided it isn't cost effective for them.
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I'm not concerned about the environment it, I can rot after I'm gone
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Old 08-24-2013, 08:48 PM   #5
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http://www.autonews.com/article/2013...#axzz2cwPZ3Z4m

Fords new 2014 F150 has a propane option. Ford says $10K more. I am familiar with Chevy conversions, now Ford. I have never heard of anything for Jeep. I am sure that it could be done. I have seen very few individuals do it. It is usually Government and Fleets for the tax breaks and cost of fuel.

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Would it be a as simple ad putting in a new tank and getting a vapor to liquid converter?
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On the wrong forum to really get into this. A lot of guys can help with V8, 4bt, or vortec conversions but none on here (that I know of) have touched propane. That seems to be reserved to the rock bouncers in the off road world
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If you are really going to do it, the hardest part would be finding the correct injectors and finding someone with the proper program for the computer. Everything else should be easily adaptable from other propane conversions.

It would be unique.

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From what I have researched you have to go carbed first. I remember a company sold a kit to convert a 2.5 carbed to propane but i dont remember the name. they had a 302 running submerged in water and then upside down pretty cool But it is not road legal to run compressed gas. Just FYI. GL.
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From what I have researched you have to go carbed first. I remember a company sold a kit to convert a 2.5 carbed to propane but i dont remember the name. they had a 302 running submerged in water and then upside down pretty cool But it is not road legal to run compressed gas. Just FYI. GL.
So why does ford offer it?
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From what I have researched you have to go carbed first. I remember a company sold a kit to convert a 2.5 carbed to propane but i dont remember the name. they had a 302 running submerged in water and then upside down pretty cool But it is not road legal to run compressed gas. Just FYI. GL.
It is road legal if it is properly done at least in Washington. As in you still pay your road tax and it passes inspection/emissions. Most people that do it have carbs and just swap it with a vaprizor and run the lines. I have yet to see a fuel injection propane system. Another benifit of running propane is your oil stays gold a lot longer.
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It is road legal if it is properly done at least in Washington. As in you still pay your road tax and it passes inspection/emissions. Most people that do it have carbs and just swap it with a vaprizor and run the lines. I have yet to see a fuel injection propane system. Another benifit of running propane is your oil stays gold a lot longer.
I should have said "check your local laws because compressed gas conversions are not road legal in every state"
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So why does ford offer it?
You can't convert. If its offered oem or a government vehicle it's cool. At least here I think it varies from state to state.
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Ok, I work with propane (and propane accessories) and I can tell you there are a few things you need to understand before you even mentally pursue this.

First, propane has an efficiency of about 80%, so if your engine normally produces 100 bhp, on propane you will get 80 bhp.

Second, Propane is put in to your engine in the same way and place as air, it does not go through the injectors, this means you have to reprogram your ECM to not have injector, fuel pressure and MAF, EGR and MAP errors when running on propane.

Third, your not converting from vapor to liquid, that is a losing battle as propane has an expansion rate of 270:1, the thing under the hood that looks like a regulator is a vaporizer/regulator, it ensures your getting vapor in your intake, not liquid.

Fourth, if you are serious about switching to propane, there are easier ways, find an older 4.0 Jeep engine with a carb so you don't have too much ECM and injector stuff to bypass, that's the easiest way.

There are a few different ways to run a gas tank for propane, if you try to mount it underneath you run in to a ton of regulatory issues with filler hoses and routing and the accessability of the maximum liquid level gauge. You can run 44lb forklift bottles, but they won't last long, I have seen a few 30 gallon tanks mounted in vehicles, even one mounted in a Jeep TJ, that's the better way to go.

Propane has it's advantages, a propane engine will run upside down, it's cleaner, it's exempt from a lot of government regulations, propane is cheaper (if you know where to shop), and it is better on your engine (no carbon build up, ever). It has it's downsides as well, the no carbon build up comes at a cost, no petroleum lubrication from gasoline, and the other downside is on long trips you seriously have to plan well ahead, although most RV parks and truck stops sell propane, the prices aren't as good as pulling in to an Amerigas, Ferrell, Blakeman or V-1 yard.

It's a safe gas, safer than gasoline with a little education, and it's a much greener gas (if you care about that kind of thing). Propane Conversion Kits is an excellent website to start your education, but don't stop there, propane has it's fans and there is a lot of information out there. If you know what your doing, have access to the parts and a decent cost and are mechanically inclined and don't have to dick around with an ECM you can do a propane conversion for the cost of the vaporizer, lines and tank.

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CNG conversion. CNG is much cheaper than gasoline but the conversion is expensive!
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Can someone give me a list of what I will need to convert a propane, keep in mind this is a 2006 and it is fuel injected not carberated
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I am very familiar with compressed natural gas as a fuel. In order to carry enough to get any decent range the tanks must be pressurized to over 3,000 PSI. I know of a tank explosion in a public transit bus in LA that was totally covered up from the press. Gasoline is so clean today emission wise I would never think of any CNG to Hydrogen gas as a fuel. If anything diesel is the way to go but cleaning its exhaust properly can be expensive. Diesel cars today must burn urea to meet US emissions. Ask any diesel Mercedes late model driver how they get ripped off for the crap. Plus unless you are close to a truck stop the dealer is the only place they can get it.
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I'm not concerned with the environment, if I were I wouldn't be driving a jeep, I just want to run on propane
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So you wanna remove all of your fuel injection, and spend a ton of money on a propane conversion just so you can be the "guy" with propane...

Seems like a waste of time and money for minimal/no gains. If all you care about is trying to build a head turner...if it were me, I would spend that time and money on something more practical.
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I'm not concerned with the environment, if I were I wouldn't be driving a jeep, I just want to run on propane
You should be concerned. Someone has to be able to live here after your gone. And if you have children one day you should really give a sh*t.
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check youtube there r jeeps on there with propane
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Leave it alone.. Go buy a new BBQ and put a jeep sticker on it.
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check youtube there r jeeps on there with propane
Best part about this is that it's the farthest thing from a head turner, looks like 99% of street modded jeeps out there. No one will know it's propane unless there's a cool bumper sticker or you're announcing to strangers that you have propane. This is outside of an autoshow/trail ride.
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You should be concerned. Someone has to be able to live here after your gone. And if you have children one day you should really give a sh*t.
boo f****** hoo, if, and that is a huge IF the environment was in as much trouble as the fear-mongering media would have you believe, if the danger was imminent enough to put the lives of anyone of any importance in any danger AT ALL we would all be mandated by law to be driving some equivalent of the Honda Clarity.

I have kids, and grand kids, and I live in Wyoming, where we don't cover everything with concrete and 7-11s.

If you want to go on and on about the environment while driving your escalade to the "green rallies" wearing birkenstocks and hemp clothes I'm pretty sure that you can find some of Michael Crighton's writing about the environment on recycled paper, might be surprised what you learn, if you can think for yourself that is.

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Can someone give me a list of what I will need to convert a propane, keep in mind this is a 2006 and it is fuel injected not carberated
See above, I told you there are a lot of resources online that will tell you how to do it easily and cheaply if your starting from a carbed engine, if not then you need something made for your vehicle and ECM, if your too lazy to do the reading you definately don't want to try this install yourself, at the very least it just won't work, you could end up hurting yourself or someone else though too. Take the time, do the reading, really learn what your trying to do or give it up, if you don't want it bad enough to do some learning you don't want it bad enough to have it.
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Om jeep is giving correct info I work in the propane industry and he is spot on.
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boo fucking hoo, if, and that is a huge IF the environment was in as much trouble as the fear-mongering media would have you believe, if the danger was imminent enough to put the lives of anyone of any importance in any danger AT ALL we would all be mandated by law to be driving some equivalent of the Honda Clarity.

I have kids, and grand kids, and I live in Wyoming, where we don't cover everything with concrete and 7-11s.

If you want to go on and on about the environment while driving your escalade to the "green rallies" wearing birkenstocks and hemp clothes I'm pretty sure that you can find some of Michael Crighton's writing about the environment on recycled paper, might be surprised what you learn, if you can think for yourself that is.

See above, I told you there are a lot of resources online that will tell you how to do it easily and cheaply if your starting from a carbed engine, if not then you need something made for your vehicle and ECM, if your too lazy to do the reading you definately don't want to try this install yourself, at the very least it just won't work, you could end up hurting yourself or someone else though too. Take the time, do the reading, really learn what your trying to do or give it up, if you don't want it bad enough to do some learning you don't want it bad enough to have it.
I don't have a carbed engine
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I'm looking to convert my Jeep to propane how much would this cost me? is it easy to do, and I'm not concerned about gas mileage or power, I just want to be the guy that can say his Jeep runs on propane.
Best thing to do is contact a propane supplier in your area they will be able to tell you what is needed and cost to convert.

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