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Old 08-09-2014, 08:44 AM   #1
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Pros and cons LJ vs. TJ

So I'm trying to figure out which I want an LJ or a TJ, either way it will be bone stock so I can have my way with it. But I'm leaning toward LJ right now. I was hoping to get some pros and cons from TJ and LJ owners

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Old 08-09-2014, 09:21 AM   #2
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LJ pros: more room and D44 rear axel
LJ cons: none

Get the LJ.

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Old 08-09-2014, 10:21 AM   #3
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The extra room is a huge benefit! You might need another 6" to make a U-turn, but everything else is better. More rear leg room, and a trunk that you can actually fit a cooler in.
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Get a lj they are superior to tjs btw I own a tj lol
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More room in the back is huge. Sliders and stuff are more expensive because of the length.

On a technical note, the longer wheelbase of the LJ will get you over taller obstacles better since the front wheels are out there and can grab. TJ's will get you over more level obstacles without getting hung up where an LJ might get high centered. It just all depends really.

Yeah, LJ's have more room.
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Higher Price and less availability are the only downside to the LJ. They also look a little goofy stock. Easy to fix with a small lift.
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Higher Price and less availability are the only downside to the LJ. They also look a little goofy stock. Easy to fix with a small lift.
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Old 08-09-2014, 11:15 AM   #8
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Ljs have more over hang in the rear behind the tire to catch rocks as you come off.
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Old 08-09-2014, 11:20 AM   #9
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Pro's Don’t see as many around, Lots of room compared to tj's. I can fit four of us all over 6ft tall and 200+ lbs with our surf fishing gear comfortably. Can’t say the same about my buddy’s tj. I Bought mine for 16K with only 29,ooo miles on it in 2008.

Cons: Hard to find a good one at a decent price.
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Old 08-09-2014, 11:38 AM   #10
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LJs need more lift height to gain the same offroad clearance (like breakover angle) offroad that TJs do, plus they are harder to maneuver through difficult terrain... which is why the Army specified the original Jeep's short wheelbase in the first place.

The only reason I'd ever go for an LJ over a TJ was if I always had back seat passengers and needed the additional room for them. My TJ carries more than enough gear for myself and a passenger.

And there are TJs with Dana 44 rear axles, you just have to look around.
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Old 08-09-2014, 12:11 PM   #11
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I have an LJ.

As Jerry hints, there is a bit more backseat legroom.

LJs do need more lift to match breakover angle. On the other hand, the slightly longer wheelbase seems to give a smoother ride. We spend most of our time on dirt roads, not crawling boulders, so it's been a good choice for us.

Also, not mentioned above, LJs are a little safer towing trailers due to longer wheelbase (rated 3500 vs Tjs 2000 lbs -not that you really want to pull that much weight)

Also, LJs all came with 4.0L engine, some TJs did not.
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Old 08-09-2014, 01:47 PM   #12
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This is a great thread. I've been looking into trading my '03 Tacoma for an LJ.
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Old 08-09-2014, 04:39 PM   #13
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Heck if you're going to dream might as well make it Rubi LJ just saying! !
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Old 08-09-2014, 05:02 PM   #14
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I've went wheeling with both rubicon and none rubicon lj's and they did great. The only issue they had was getting high centered and they had some issues in tight areas. We all had capable rigs but I think my tj did the best in the rocks. The wheelbase is helpfull in some terrain and a hindrence in other terrain. I really do like the LJ but for the type of wheeling I do I like my tj.
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Old 08-09-2014, 08:57 PM   #15
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I've had a CJ & TJ. Now I have an LJ and it's by far my favorite hands down!
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I will say this though...the Rubi is outstanding, but if you're planning to do extensive mods I wouldn't pay the extra for it.
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LJs need more lift height to gain the same offroad clearance (like breakover angle) offroad that TJs do, plus they are harder to maneuver through difficult terrain... which is why the Army specified the original Jeep's short wheelbase in the first place. The only reason I'd ever go for an LJ over a TJ was if I always had back seat passengers and needed the additional room for them. My TJ carries more than enough gear for myself and a passenger. And there are TJs with Dana 44 rear axles, you just have to look around.
X2 Jerry. I like short Jeeps. The LJ can tow a 1000 more pounds due to it's length. Is the only other plus I can think of.
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So I'm trying to figure out which I want an LJ or a TJ, either way it will be bone stock so I can have my way with it. But I'm leaning toward LJ right now. I was hoping to get some pros and cons from TJ and LJ owners
Con: LJs are nearly all but rarely not funny looking.
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Old 08-10-2014, 10:37 AM   #20
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Mine will mostly be a DD with some light off-roading but I always have a passenger and usually two 60lb dogs crammed in the back with some gear
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Any more pros and cons?
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Old 08-10-2014, 01:17 PM   #22
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If you are going to have passengers, dogs, and gear, you will want an LJ. The TJ is too small for dogs and gear in the back. It might even be tight in an
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LJs are much easier to lift up to 4 inches because you don't have issue with the rear driveshaft vibrations. They have great room for back seat passengers and the additional room behind the rear seat is priceless.
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The only con I've noticed is that you must lift them at least 2 inches to make them look normal.
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My SWB TJ is my daily driver. Sometimes, but not too often, I wish I had the extra room of an LJ.
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I do like the look of my TJ, but every time we off camping I curse the small space.. a LJ would have been perfect for all the gear!
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LJs are much easier to lift up to 4 inches because you don't have issue with the rear driveshaft vibrations. They have great room for back seat passengers and the additional room behind the rear seat is priceless.
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My SWB TJ is my daily driver. Sometimes, but not too often, I wish I had the extra room of an LJ.
Just one more food for thought: I have never wished I had a SWB TJ instead of my LJ. I think most LJ owners would say the same thing.
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You've just never gotten onto trails where the extra long wheelbase was a problem. I do a very tight/twisty trail on a 1-2x a year where LJs absolutely don't have a good time. They generally use the escape routes early on the trail, people tend to stick to trails their Jeeps can handle. My TJ can do any trail an equally built LJ can but it's not true the other direction.

If it's cargo and passenger space you need, an LJ is the right choice. But I'll take a TJ for difficult trail use any day.
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My lj Easily does trails my tj couldn't, so yes it is true both ways.

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