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Old 12-14-2012, 02:37 PM   #91
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I am able to go full articulation with my anti-sway bars disconnected. Front and rear. I have double pin sway bar disconnects on the front and rear that allow me to simply remove the pins and remove the center rod of the sway bar disconnects. I prefer this design over the ones that only allow one pin to be removed.
The Metal Cloak fenders allow the front end to max out on the bump stops and still not get into the body. I run the recommended bump stops for my shock length. The rear doesn't really seem to have any issues either. I wheel pretty hard and don't have any rubbing problems.
Metal Cloak fenders are pretty pricey. You may try a body lift to reduce the rubbing problem. I don't really know much about that though. I haven't ever done a body lift.
I hope this helps.---Ladderslug
A few things.

Recommending to someone to disconnect both of their sway bars is poor practice. Learn what they actually do before making such a bad recommendation. I'm not a fan of disconnecting the front sway bar, let alone both.

You're actually a fan of one of the top ten worst designs ever created? Because that's what I would call the three piece sway bar links. Two pins = two sets of holes to line up. If you're going to hamper yourself by running the stock front sway bar with quick disconnect links, at least make it easy on yourself. The rear should remain connected with correct-length solid links.
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:03 PM   #92
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Pro: I can fit two full size tubas in the back and close the gate!
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:15 AM   #93
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A few things.

Recommending to someone to disconnect both of their sway bars is poor practice. Learn what they actually do before making such a bad recommendation. I'm not a fan of disconnecting the front sway bar, let alone both.

You're actually a fan of one of the top ten worst designs ever created? Because that's what I would call the three piece sway bar links. Two pins = two sets of holes to line up. If you're going to hamper yourself by running the stock front sway bar with quick disconnect links, at least make it easy on yourself. The rear should remain connected with correct-length solid links.
X2 on all of that. Especially on it being highly detrimental to offroad suspension performance to disconnect both anti-swaybars.
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Here's a link for a nice custom LJ for sale:

FOR SALE: 2006 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon Unlimited LJ - YouTube
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Pro: LJ's come stock with a Dana 44 in the rear.
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Old 12-11-2013, 11:16 AM   #96
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When I decided I wanted to buy a used Jeep, everything happened so fast. I mentioned it one day at work and a buddy said that a former co-worker of ours was selling his. I wound up buying it the next day. When I went to look at it, he said it was an Unlimited. I didn't realize just how fortunate I was until after I bought it and started comparing it to regular TJs. For me, the extra space alone is worth it. After wheeling it and driving it around town, the ride is also so much better. He also had a hard top trying to locate a good one is not as issue. The only real drawback for me is that in bone stock configuration, with a hard top on, they look kind of wimpy compared to the shorter TJ. Fortunately, mine was already lifted and modded out when I got it.
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Old 12-11-2013, 11:46 AM   #97
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My hardtop stayed in storage for 3 years when I lived in Louisiana. Get some door surrounds and a safari top and you'll be golden but don't forget to remove the carpet and drain plugs. Then again I didn't have A/C in my old CJ7 and having the doors off and bikini on helped in that heat. Other staff members at LSU were not happy when I parked in the staff lots even though I was staff. They assumed I was a student and would leave notes on my Jeep that students weren't allowed to park in staff parking lots, but didn't have enough balls to sign their name. LOL Sorry for the rant.

You will enjoy that LJ a ton... I know I enjoy mine.
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Old 01-24-2014, 11:38 AM   #98
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I forgot to add

pros
more room
longer wb

cons
none

I REALLY like the khaki LJ's... this doesnt look bad at all on the 31's
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Old 01-24-2014, 12:07 PM   #99
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Old 03-16-2014, 01:36 PM   #100
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I have an 05 LJ and it climbs up obstacles without some of the hop that the Tj's have. It rides pretty smooth on the highway.
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Old 03-16-2014, 04:17 PM   #101
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I took a train 365 mi to purchase our LJ. I hadn't seen the vehicle, just pics. I had never driven one, but I listened to advice from some of the posters on here ( I was determined to buy a Rubicon TJ in Maryland). A local kid who builds and lives Jeeps told me to buy it now and get on the road in the morning. But, but the Rubicon. He told me if you get the LJ and want to upgrade to Rubi level it will cost you some money....Get the Rubi and want to upgrade to the LJ....nightmare. I am glad I blindly listened to advice..Go get the LJ!!!! My first impressions was coming out of Lancaster County Pa. I was in heaven. When I finally hit I-81 I was blown away at the way it tracked at 75 in 6th gear. That's when I knew I had made the right decision. My props to Stoney Ledge Auto Sales and Dale and Randall.
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Old 06-26-2015, 01:25 AM   #102
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New to the forum but not to jeeps. Have had 7 of them (couple of Cherokees, couple of grand wagoneers and 2 TJ's and a JK). I always had an eye for the LJs...just bought this survivor Tuesday. 2004 with 45,000 miles. I love the ride. Test-drove a '10 JK at the same time but loved the LJ. I am mostly a street driver and occasionally ride some back roads, orange grove trails and dirt roads, this rig can definitely handle that.
She's in pretty good shape with a new soft top...she will definitely be seeing her share of mods...I'll keep you posted as I make 'em.
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New to the forum but not to jeeps. Have had 7 of them (couple of Cherokees, couple of grand wagoneers and 2 TJ's and a JK). I always had an eye for the LJs...just bought this survivor Tuesday. 2004 with 45,000 miles. I love the ride. Test-drove a '10 JK at the same time but loved the LJ. I am mostly a street driver and occasionally ride some back roads, orange grove trails and dirt roads, this rig can definitely handle that.
She's in pretty good shape with a new soft top...she will definitely be seeing her share of mods...I'll keep you posted as I make 'em.
Congrats and welcome to the forum!!!
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Old 06-26-2015, 01:49 PM   #104
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Wish I knew about LJs when I bought mine. Nice get Leftka!
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Old 06-26-2015, 02:14 PM   #105
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Old 06-26-2015, 02:20 PM   #106
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Well, also on the cons, there's some things you just can't buy for a LJ and have to fabricate yourself, like a security shelf system for the area behind the back seat.

So anyhow, upsides: Room, rides better on the highway *than a TJ* (not better than a JK -- a JK is smooooooth on the highway by comparison), climbs like a monkey (I can climb things that have the SWB TJ's and YJ's and CJ's skittering around like cockroaches and needing the hook).

Downsides: it's physically longer, thus needs more cuts at some obstacles. If it's a daily driver you'll need to take a cut at parking spots that SWB Jeeps can just vroom into, and offroad you'll need to carefully take into account the extra 15 inches of length (10 inches in wheelbase, 5 inches behind the back wheel). In reality the breakover angle isn't a big deal, I never got hung up because of that. The length definitely took some adjustments. It was never enough to keep me from doing the trail, but I did have to stop and take cuts in some places where SWB Jeeps don't.

The extra weight may affect gas mileage, though we're talking about a Jeep Wrangler so gas mileage is almost a non-starter anyhow. It also makes it feel stable on the road, but less "sporty" for some reason.

BTW, regarding gas tank skid, it has the exact same gas tank in the exact same location as the TJ (the gas tank is *not* pushed backwards, there is 5 inches of extra empty space behind the gas tank that you could, e.g., put an air tank into). It does tend to clang when you fall off a ledge but that's because of the extra weight of the extra 15 inches of Jeep being on top of the back wheels, I eventually did put a Savvy gas tank skid and gas tank tuck on the LJ to stop that.

Which would I prefer, TJ or LJ? Well, clearly, the LJ, since I bought one . I feel it's a better all-around vehicle than the TJ, though the rarity means that I worry long-term about availability of tops. Luckily tops are the only thing there will be a problem with, since everything else is either shared with the TJ or is easily fabricated or repaired.

Comparing LJ to JK: I wouldn't have a 2007-2011 JK. The minivan engine is completely overwhelmed by the porkitude of this bloated piece of shortened pickup truck frame with Jeep-like body placed atop it. The LJ is far better offroad than any JK because it only has one thing hanging down in the middle -- the shovel for the transfer case skid -- while the JK has a massive gas tank *plus* the transfer case skid *plus* a transmission crossmember/"skid" (for the automatic) all hanging down below the Jeep, as well as the massively tall pickup truck frame that hangs down about 3 inches further than the TJ frame. Plus I haven't found *any* rock rails for the JK that are sturdy enough to satisfy me yet (note that I'm running Savvy's aluminum/stainless combo on my LJ, which are Hammers-tested and *stout*), due to the boat-like curve of the JK's body and the fact that the body swoops down to a pinch seam a couple inches below the body proper to try to hide some of the humongously tall frame from public view, a horrifically weak scheme that has to be seen to be believed .

So why do I have a 2012 Wrangler Rubicon? Because a) 285 horsepower (vroom!), b) I'm male, and c) I'm an idiot (but I repeat myself ). But if I had any sense, I would never have bought the '012. What can I say, moh powah! (cue Tim Taylor grunt).

Needless to say, I think the 2012 Wrangler is a much better *car* than my 2006 LJ -- more powerful, rides smoother, *much* more comfortable interior (electric windows even!), and so forth -- but the LJ is a much better *Jeep*. If I were building a hard-core Jeep for regular wheeling, my LJ is the basis I'd use for that. Unfortunately, I need a daily driver and really don't wheel often enough to have a dedicated wheeling Jeep, so... (shrug).
Tuffy security box you can buy for the LJ. thats what I have in mine plus the back seat. All my tools fit in there plus and valuables.

I've owned all 3. first JK then TJ now LJ. LJ by far is my fav. And yes suspension has to be set up by someone who understands the ins and outs of the business. Not 4wheel parts or other hacks that just lift a rig for bigger tires.
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My LJ or so it is called!

I will go anywhere a short one will go. I like the added length over the three previous short ones we owned and used. Shines both on road, highway and offroad. Have not been hindered at all. It does have some work done underneath it as well.
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Thinking about buying an LJ. Its a salvage title due to a hail storm, just has some dents and scratches. Looks great though and runs perfectly. Its a 2005 with 120xxx on it. Lifted with 35's. He is asking 10,000. Thoughts?
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great saving $5K if you aren't planning on fixing the hail damage. probably the cheapest way to get into a Wrangler unless you spend $5K fixing the hail damage. but a "salvage" title should come in way below $10K. and find out what you need to do to license it. "salvage" is something which rings all the bells and whistles at the DMV and the Insurance brokers.
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I too have had most all generations of Jeep CJ,YJ,TJ & now have a JKUR that has its place with the family but my LJ is just right for me it's the best for all my uses.
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Old 08-06-2016, 11:48 AM   #111
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I'm new to the forum and new to jeep.
I am in the process of buying my first jeep, I found an 05 LJ I will be test driving today. My one issue is, my sons hockey bag has to fit. That is how I pick my vehicles. I drove a Toyota Sequoia unlimited for 12 years and now have been driving a Yukon for 2 years. I dislike my Yukon very much.
I'm bringing his bag to make sure it fits.
I have wanted a jeep since I was a teeny weeny. What should I look for to make sure it's a good buy? Please help, goals- jeep girl. ?
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Old 08-06-2016, 05:23 PM   #112
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One disadvantage to an LJ, Jeep quit making all the "LJ" specific parts a few years ago.
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What should I look for to make sure it's a good buy?

the obvious:

asking price compared to NADA guide/KBB/Auto Trader prices
general condition
how it runs and drives


depending on where you're located:

lack of rust on the frame and body

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