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Old 06-02-2010, 05:02 AM   #1
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Q's about my new Wrangler

I've been lurking on this forum for a week or two, collecting a ton of great info! (Thanks to all you awesome techies!)
Later today, I'm signing papers on a 99 Wrangler sport, auto, 4.0, soft top.
However, I still have a couple of questions:
1- there's a tranny fluid drip below the radiator. If I end up replacing the radiator, is there a preferred aftermarket brand, or should I stay OEM?

2- Can I fold down the soft top and drive around, or do I need to completely remove it? Is there something to wrap it up so the wind doesn't turn it into an expensive kite?
3- the oil pressure gauge was bottomed out for most of the test drive, then suddenly stuttered a bit, and jumped up about 3/4 of the way and sat solid. I'm thinking maybe a short? Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance for any help you folks are willing to share with me! I've been off-roading for 25 years, but this is my first Jeep!


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Welcome to WF.

On the top you can just fold it back after the side windows are off and the rear window is rolled up. I'll try to find the video... Standby.

Ok, watch the video in the second post of THIS thread.

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Welcome. I just bought my first Wrangler (a '97 TJ) about a week ago.

I'm not sure about #1 but might be able to answer #s 2 and 3.

For the top, take out the windows and fold it down. It might take 2 or 3 times before you get the hang of it. Definitely watch that video. Once down, my top has elastic straps that you can tie around the bars to keep them anchored. If you don't have these, I'd suggest a bungee cord or two to keep them together. Personally, I like keeping the rattling to a minimum.

For the oil pressure issue, you might want to try replacing the Oil Pressure Sending Unit. You can get this part at Autozone. I think I priced it around $40. My Jeep does something similar but I haven't gotten around to fixing it. Here's the thread I found when I researched it this week: http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/oil-...ing-51287.html

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^^^ x2

I drove around with my softtop just folded up and laying across by my spare for about 5 years, no issue.

Yager is right on about the Oil Pressure issue.
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Welcome to the forum Yagermeister! Great first post.
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Welcome to the forum Yagermeister! Great first post.
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Nice Jeep, welcome to the forum. Are you sure it's transmission fluid? Jeep coolant is pink and mine had a slow drip that I thought was transmission fluid till I crawled under and saw it dripping from the rad. there's a thingy (technical term for the mechanically challenged ) that you can tighten by hand there, and doing so fixed my drip.

On the top, x4! Watch the vid. Once it's folded down, I've never had a problem with wind catching it at all.... Even on seriously windy (40mph gusts) days. Just take your time and tuck it in nicely and you'll not have a problem. Those elastic straps are for holding the rear window in place if you want to roll it up, rather than removing it. I recommend you remove it if you are going to fold the top down, it helps prevent scratching the windows. Mine doesn't rattle at all.

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nice looking jeep!

when you fold down the soft top, just make sure to tuck them in nice so that it won't get pinched when opening/closing the rear door
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Wow! Thanks for the fast reply's folks!
Thanks for the link, Ageless Stranger. As soon as the rain lets up here (read:Friday) I'll give it a shot.
Yagermeister, I'll try the sending unit this weekend too.

Inferno Girl, I can only hope that my leak is as easy to fix as yours! I'm fairly certain it was trans fluid, but I didn't know we are running red coolant as well. I guess when I get it home I'll have to try tightening up all my connections and see what happens. I'll tighten that petcock valve too
(sorry, just had to see if the sensorship here would allow a technical term like that! )
Again, thanks everyone!
I'll post back on the leak and the oil pressure gauge as I get the problems resolved.

And Inferno Girl, I grew up a small town farmer. I've had the wave down since I was 3 Maybe now people won't look at me funny in big towns, lol!

Cheers folks, and Happy Wednesday!
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I'm curious why the dealer is not required to fix these thing prior to the sale? Or did he reduce the price to an "AS IS" sale?
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Welcome! This video helped me a ton when I got mine...



there are a couple differences being a newer jeep in the video, but the fold down part is the same.
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Bob- yep, I got a super deal on my trade in, and a good price on the Jeep as well. The way other Jeeps (more worn out) are priced in town, I figure I'm saving about 4 grand by taking on these (hopefully) minor problems.
Plus, I want an automatic, and my choices in the area on those are quite limited.

Seven Services- yeppers, I watched those videos on the Jeep site. Putting the top up / down seems fairly straight forward.
I'm off to say goodbye to my Tacoma, and hello to my next project!
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I'm off to say goodbye to my Tacoma, and hello to my next project!
Goodbye Taco, hello Jeep!
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Before replacing the oil pressure sender, unplug its electrical connector and flush it out with WD-40 and then plug it back together after shaking out the excess WD-40. WD-40 is a better solvent and cleaner than it is a lubricant and it is actually designed for electrical circuits. There's a good chance the electrical connections inside the plug are simply dirty. No guarantee but at least try cleaning it before replacing the sender.

On the radiator leak, it could be ATF since your automatic transmission uses the radiator as a transmission cooler. It could be nothing more than the hose that connects to the radiator has split & just needs to be trimmed & replaced and clamped back into place using the OE spring clamp. Incidentally, such spring clamps look like they should be replaced by stainless steel worm-drive hose clamps but avoid the temptation. The OE spring clamp used there and on the radiator hoses is actually a superior way to hold things like that.
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Good gouge Jerry. If only I can remember all the great things I learn here.
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OK. After having it for a day (well, a few hours before work) to drive around and practice my wave , I've got a couple more questions, lol!
1- What do you folks use to condition / protect the soft top? Is any one better than another?
2- The climate control knobs fly off the dash when I hit the gas. I thought the knobs were just cracked, but a couple of the knobs look to be brand new. Upon further inspection, the little shaft-thingy's sticking out of my climate control (for the knobs) look as though someone used pliers (alot!), and the new knobs won't stay on any better than a broken knob. Any ideas how to fix this, short of replacing the entire climate control module?
3- (I'll need to get pics to post, probably tomorrow) there appears to be missing parts (swaybar?) up front. There's an empty bolt hole at the turnbuckle, and the body roll is almost comical in town. I'm hoping this is where the quick- disconnects would go. That way, since I need to buy the part anyway, I'll upgrade it.
(And yes, I know the dangers of driving in this condition-but it's fun )
Thanks again for everyone's awesome help! I need to track down a Chilton /Haynes book, I went to a couple of stores, but they were both out. My weekend shopping list is growing fast!
Also, I went to order a CloverPatch roll for the windows, and saw they have also a "Window Storage Duffel". Is there any difference between the two?
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Congrats monkeee. Forget about the Haynes/Chilton manuals. Pick up a factory service manual for the '99 TJ. I got mine from ebay for 25 bucks delivered. A little grease smudged but it was all there. A must have in my opinion.. Get the printed one not the cd rom version.

Regarding the climate control knobs, they normally press on VERY tight. So someone probably did use pliers and was working back there, which is a common issue. I would try a wrap of electrical tape on the shaft to tighten the fit. I had to work on my fan switch and I'm glad I had the factory manual.

Regarding the swaybar issue I'll let someone with more knowledge answer that one. Good luck with everything.
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Cool blog, thanks for the link. As a spam-can pilot/former military, I love that stuff.
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1- What do you folks use to condition / protect the soft top? Is any one better than another?

Also, I went to order a CloverPatch roll for the windows, and saw they have also a "Window Storage Duffel". Is there any difference between the two?
I didn't click on the link, but I'm guessing the "window storage duffel" is the Bestop product, which competes with the CloverPatch. Um, I mean, they compete with us. The dirty rats. Just kidding - I've heard good things about their roll. You do want to treat those windows with respect and tenderness.

There are several cleaners and protectants out there for soft tops. Bestop sells their own brand, which honestly gets good reviews from people. But anything made for a convertible top will do. Wolfenstiens (I know that's not it, but close...), etc.

Congratulations on your new ride. Have fun this summer!
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In regard to No. 2: I'm at work so I can't quite visualize what the knob/shaft combo looks like but another trick often used is to break off the end of a toothpick to the appropriate length and position it in place so that it ends up between the OD of the shaft and the ID of the knob as you slide the knob back into place.
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monkee, welcome to WF and congrats on your Jeep. I have a '99 sport 4.0L automatic as well. I had a similar issue with my climate control nobs. The back part of one of my knobs was cracked...... a little super glue fixed that. As for getting a "tighter fit", I used a little "hot glue" and it solved my problem. I used "hot glue" cause it dries fast, dries solid, sticks well, but at the same time its not permanent like super glue or JB weld or something. You will be able to remove the knobs in the future if needed.

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You said you think a part is missing from your underside of your front end? Here compare it to this picture.

oh and x2 on not buying the Haynes manual, they suck. I too bought a Chrysler '99 Jeep wrangler specific manual from ebay for about $30..... totally worth the money!
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I didn't click on the link, but I'm guessing the "window storage duffel" is the Bestop product, which competes with the CloverPatch. Um, I mean, they compete with us. The dirty rats. Just kidding - I've heard good things about their roll. You do want to treat those windows with respect and tenderness.

There are several cleaners and protectants out there for soft tops. Bestop sells their own brand, which honestly gets good reviews from people. But anything made for a convertible top will do. Wolfenstiens (I know that's not it, but close...), etc.

Congratulations on your new ride. Have fun this summer!
Thanks for the insight!
I'm going to start ordering stuff later today. We only have 1 decent off-road shop in my area, and they're prices reflect that fact.

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In regard to No. 2: I'm at work so I can't quite visualize what the knob/shaft combo looks like but another trick often used is to break off the end of a toothpick to the appropriate length and position it in place so that it ends up between the OD of the shaft and the ID of the knob as you slide the knob back into place.
OMG! THANK YOU! I have had to do that (many, MANY years ago), and totally forgot about that little trick! I'll probably incorporate Greene91's idea, and use a little silicone in there as well, to make everything stick together a little bit.

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You said you think a part is missing from your underside of your front end? Here compare it to this picture.

oh and x2 on not buying the Haynes manual, they suck. I too bought a Chrysler '99 Jeep wrangler specific manual from ebay for about $30..... totally worth the money!
The swaybar link is the part I noticed that is gone. The body rolls pretty wild & easy at all 4 corners, so I'm thinking something similar may be missing at the rear as well.
It's rainy today, and my driveway is muddy. I'll probably run to a tireshop later and have them throw it on a hoist for me so I can get a better look.
(It's amazing what a tire shop will do for you after you spend $6g's )

I've looked a little online, and there seem to be alot of options for the swaybar link. Anybody like one more than another? Is the quick-disconnect worth it?
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Cool blog, thanks for the link. As a spam-can pilot/former military, I love that stuff.
You fly spammers to eh? I need to go up soon, been too long and those tailwheel skills rust badly if not used.

Go to the link and scroll down. On the right hand side you'll find the tag globe. Click on "Sea Stories". Enjoy the next few days of your life. I've read them all at least twice. The one's about "Mugger" and the one about the Moe Debbinly award are my favorites. The "Rythms" section is great too. It's a short story told as "A day in the life" of an aircraft carrier at sea told from many points of view. Great story.

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You fly spammers to eh? I need to go up soon, been too long and those tailwheel skills rust badly if not used.
Yep, though I never flew taildraggers (Citabrias in my case) enough to get that particular endorsement. Never groundlooped one so I figured if I stayed away from taidraggers I never would. I switched from Citabrias to the Zlin 242 (a fun strong airplane) for the small amount of aerobatics I used to fly when I had more $$$.
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I found a site to download jeep manuals at http://www.jeepslimited.com/index.ph...d=21&Itemid=47 (first time postin a link, so it might not work.) I think you need to register and you will need to print your own copy afterwards. Only problem I found was the 2001 manual is actually for a 2000, close enough for me.

Two things regarding the soft top (if it like my '01): 1. always lock the top around the door surrounds while up, causes nasty tears around the plastic flapping in the breeze. 2. The center support bar will sometimes hangup when lowering/storing and prevent the front bar from storing properly. Make sure the center support is fully back to the tailgate and the front bar should drop into place. I learned both items above the hard way using the brute force method.
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I found a site to download jeep manuals at http://www.jeepslimited.com/index.ph...d=21&Itemid=47 (first time postin a link, so it might not work.) I think you need to register and you will need to print your own copy afterwards. Only problem I found was the 2001 manual is actually for a 2000, close enough for me.

Two things regarding the soft top (if it like my '01): 1. always lock the top around the door surrounds while up, causes nasty tears around the plastic flapping in the breeze. 2. The center support bar will sometimes hangup when lowering/storing and prevent the front bar from storing properly. Make sure the center support is fully back to the tailgate and the front bar should drop into place. I learned both items above the hard way using the brute force method.
Thanks for the info! I'll check that link out this evening, and I'll definitely keep those tips in mind when I put the top down. I'm hoping the weatherman stops changing his mind, and gives us a sunny day!

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