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Old 02-22-2012, 03:11 PM   #61
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If a Chinese winch ever came out that was just as good and dependable as an American made Warn winch, I would still buy the American-made Warn. I would rather keep my friends and neighbors employed and try to help our economy instead of the Chinese economy.

And due to simple pride and the fact our economy is still sucking, there is now a very public push in America to buy more American made goods. I was in that mode even well before that was popular and being discussed on some network news.
I agree that buying American is the best thing we can do but when your me and your income is around 200 a month... Its hard to come up with the $. I know. Save longer. But sometimes you can't wait.

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I agree that buying American is the best thing we can do but when your me and your income is around 200 a month... Its hard to come up with the $. I know. Save longer. But sometimes you can't wait.
$200 a month. How can you afford to pay attention let alone gaz?

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$200 a month. How can you afford to pay attention let alone gaz?
Haha gas I try to keep at around 110 a month. A tank per pay check. And sometimes I get 250 on a good work. In April my other job starts again
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Do you waive the surcharge as well to make it truly "free" shipping?
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When I replace my Mile Marker winch I will go the Warn route. The only reason I have a Mile Marker is my friend gave it to me for free. I just could not pass that up.
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I have a question for Qtec. I just got your spring magazine, and Saw your winch and plate. It looks exactly like my Engo and Engo plate, from what I can tell. Can you explain the similarities. Is it just because they are similar winches or what? same fairleads I do believe, the winch plate is identical, winch body and setup is much the same. Thanks Joe!
The casings are similar but we use upgraded internal parts. I'm not sure about the plates, as I haven't seen any of Engo's myself. I actually hadn't heard of them until our winch threads started and the name came up in them all.

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Do you waive the surcharge as well to make it truly "free" shipping?
For items that ship standard UPS ground, I can usually waive the surcharges 90% of the time. Truck freight items I can work on the pricing, but cannot waive that completely. The free shipping is only for the lower 48 states as well.

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Yea but I would rather push or walk because of no winch rather than doing the same because my winch doesn't work
So in the event your $900+ Warn winch were to take a dump be it by neglect, or the one in a million mfg defect/part failure that slipped by QC would you say the same thing?
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Yes? I would still rather walk or push becuase of not having a winch, than having a winch that doesn't work. Wouldn't you?

First off, no derp a winch will stop working sooner if you neglect it. And you said it yourself about warns QC . "1 in 1000000" implying almost no problems will get past it. (QC) I'm sure there are only a select few companys that sell winches like warn that have such high expectations in quality, and QC tests. And I'm sure none of those companys are based in China .

That being said qtechs winch is as cheap as the dirt your using it pull you out of. So I might just try one!
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The casings are similar but we use upgraded internal parts. I'm not sure about the plates, as I haven't seen any of Engo's myself. I actually hadn't heard of them until our winch threads started and the name came up in them all.
Just to clear this up up since we're a seller of the winch being compared to in the thread. Engo does not make the Quadratec winch. It comes from a completely different factory, thus no internals to upgrade compared to Engo.
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Just to clear this up up since we're a seller of the winch being compared to in the thread. Engo does not make the Quadratec winch. It comes from a completely different factory, thus no internals to upgrade compared to Engo.
Correct, Engo does not make the Quadratec winch. We have looked into the Engo winches and think that they are very good winches. Our product sourcing specialist knows where the winches are produced and feels their quality is quite good. We just feel that with our different internals and added features that it is a superior product.

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What does the winch mount to

I have been thinking of buying a winch from Q tech, do I need to build/buy a bracket, or do I just remove the plastic 'Jeep' insert and bolt it down?
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I have been thinking of buying a winch from Q tech, do I need to build/buy a bracket, or do I just remove the plastic 'Jeep' insert and bolt it down?
You'll need to purchase a winch mount plate.
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Well if all goes well I should place an order for the winch this summer.
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Correct, Engo does not make the Quadratec winch. We have looked into the Engo winches and think that they are very good winches. Our product sourcing specialist knows where the winches are produced and feels their quality is quite good. We just feel that with our different internals and added features that it is a superior product.

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I really didn't want to do this. I didn't want to get into a "is this winch better than the other one". I simply was responding to clear the air in regards to the question of whether it is the same winch and someone questioning if it came from the same place. My answer did so without comparing product quality.

However, I will have to refute your statement that the Quadratec winch is superior. I'm familiar with where the Quadratec labeled winches are sourced and will respectfully disagree that they are a superior product, "upgraded internals" or not.The reasons why I will keep to myself. I'm not going to trash another competitor or their product on an open forum.
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I travel to China routinely, and I can say first hand with certainty that all the Chinese winches of any value are manufactured in one of two facilities, literally side by side with one-another. I have been to both facilities for other business. One is just outside of Shanghai, the other 200km NW of Beijing. And yes, group "W" has certain models of winches made in these exact facilities, mostly the ATV line.

I've said it before, and I will say it again, MY winch is a disposable item. I have had them all fail on me, including the cherished W !! When they fail, I replace it with whatever tickles me at the time......just my $0.02...
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so... what happens when mud gets all inside this? cause i have to be honest it doesnt look like its sealed up very well
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so... what happens when mud gets all inside this? cause i have to be honest it doesnt look like its sealed up very well
Mud Schmud man. Mud doesn't stop winches! Lol. I would hope the actually product looks different than that pic.
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I have been thinking of buying a winch from Q tech, do I need to build/buy a bracket, or do I just remove the plastic 'Jeep' insert and bolt it down?
If your asking this question you should really be asking yourself if you really need a winch.
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If your asking this question you should really be asking yourself if you really need a winch.
That's rude . Everyone started somewhere with questions .
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That's rude . Everyone started somewhere with questions .
Better he learns form the Fourm as that's the point of it .
x2 I know I've learned a lot on Forums like this and if you embarrass someone for asking what you consider a dumb question then they wont ask any at all.
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x2 I know I've learned a lot on Forums like this and if you embarrass someone for asking what you consider a dumb question then they wont ask any at all.
And that means more messed up jeeps .
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and back to the Quadratec winch discussion.... I agree with the whole buy American for quality/economy/moral reasons, and I won't repeat what everyone said... The main reason I shelled out the extra cash for my Warn is for peace of mind. There are so many discussions on whether or not this winch is good or that winch is bad, and on most winches there is never a 100% consensus that it is good. There are always stories about Chinese made winches failing. The one brand that I have never ever seen knocked is Warn. Sure, those other winches may last years and work perfectly for some people, but will it for me? I can't be sure, so every time I need to use it I'd be worried about it failing and me being completely f'ed. With my Warn, I drive into mud I'm not sure about getting through, I pressure my friends to do the same, because I know that my Warn will get us out every time. Obviously there are human factors, and the winch won't get me out if I'm up to the roof in mud, but that's not the winch's fault.

I've also learned through experience, as I'm sure many have, that buying cheap tools is not a good idea. When they break, you end up spending more $ after replacing it then if you had bought the good one in the first place.

Sure I spent $500 on the winch, but I am 100% confident that with basic care and maintence it will last me for many many years. And I get stuck a lot!

just my 2 cents (or a little more )
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I travel to China routinely, and I can say first hand with certainty that all the Chinese winches of any value are manufactured in one of two facilities, literally side by side with one-another. I have been to both facilities for other business. One is just outside of Shanghai, the other 200km NW of Beijing. And yes, group "W" has certain models of winches made in these exact facilities, mostly the ATV line.

I've said it before, and I will say it again, MY winch is a disposable item. I have had them all fail on me, including the cherished W !! When they fail, I replace it with whatever tickles me at the time......just my $0.02...
must be nice to replace it with "what ever tickles me at the time." I for one cherish every dollar spent, which as I said in my last post means I buy quality the first time.
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must be nice to replace it with "what ever tickles me at the time." I for one cherish every dollar spent, which as I said in my last post means I buy quality the first time.
So in essence jstone, what tickles you is to buy quality the first time around. That is great, and I'm happy you can do that! Quality however is an ambiguous term, and definitely in the eye of the beholder.....as I said, I have had many winches fail, even Warn.

I try them all, variety is the spice of life!! After all, I no longer work for me, I now work for Jeep accessories!! LOL
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Mud Schmud man. Mud doesn't stop winches! Lol. I would hope the actually product looks different than that pic.
That is the actual product. I took it right of q techs website.
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So in essence jstone, what tickles you is to buy quality the first time around. That is great, and I'm happy you can do that! Quality however is an ambiguous term, and definitely in the eye of the beholder.....as I said, I have had many winches fail, even Warn.

I try them all, variety is the spice of life!! After all, I no longer work for me, I now work for Jeep accessories!! LOL
Under what sort of conditions did or fail and why didn't you get it warranty replaced?
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That is the actual product. I took it right of q techs website.
It looked like a drawing on my phone :O sorry jackiepoo
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I really didn't want to do this. I didn't want to get into a "is this winch better than the other one". I simply was responding to clear the air in regards to the question of whether it is the same winch and someone questioning if it came from the same place. My answer did so without comparing product quality.

However, I will have to refute your statement that the Quadratec winch is superior. I'm familiar with where the Quadratec labeled winches are sourced and will respectfully disagree that they are a superior product, "upgraded internals" or not.The reasons why I will keep to myself. I'm not going to trash another competitor or their product on an open forum.
If you'd like to discuss further about the two winches regarding manufacturing and such, please contact me in private. I did not trash or say that the Engo winch was a bad winch. I said that here at Quadratec, we agreed that is was a good winch, but we feel that ours is better. That's our opinion, and you have yours. It isn't a debate, nor is anyone trying to start a flame war about it.



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I travel to China routinely, and I can say first hand with certainty that all the Chinese winches of any value are manufactured in one of two facilities, literally side by side with one-another. I have been to both facilities for other business. One is just outside of Shanghai, the other 200km NW of Beijing. And yes, group "W" has certain models of winches made in these exact facilities, mostly the ATV line.

I've said it before, and I will say it again, MY winch is a disposable item. I have had them all fail on me, including the cherished W !! When they fail, I replace it with whatever tickles me at the time......just my $0.02...
Our winches do not come from either of those locations.

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