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Old 03-08-2011, 01:26 PM   #1
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Question about seat mounts ('05 TJ)

Just found the forum...GREAT resource! Just got my wife a 2005 Wrangler, but she's only 5' 0" tall and has a hard time seeing over the dash, even with the seat straight up ! I'm wanting to find/install some type of 2" 'spacers' under her seat between the rails and the floorpan. I took a quick look & the front two bolts are 'no-brainers' but the rear mount bolts look to be almost impossible to remove (???). Anyone have any ideas or know the 'trick' to removing this seat so I can get it raised up for her. THANKS!

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Old 03-08-2011, 01:53 PM   #2
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I'll post up more on this tonight but it's very easy to install spacers under your seats. There is even a kit available to do this which I have installed on my own jeep. I will try to find more information on it for you later tonight after I get home from work.

Edit: There you go, there is already one kit for you below. There are other taller spacer kits up to maybe as tall as 2" as well. Mine is either 1.5" or 1.75".

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Old 03-08-2011, 01:57 PM   #3
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I used the seat risers in my TJ. Here is a link to some and at the bottom of the page there is a link for the instructions.

Jeep Accessories - Seat Risers
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Old 03-09-2011, 05:52 AM   #4
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rear seat belts

Thanks for the link to the spacer kits...I looked at the instruction sheet & I see where T55 (internally wrenching) bolt tool is required for the rear seat bolts... I have a tool, but I STILL don't see HOW those bolts come out: There's a 'spring-loaded' plastic flap (cover) which protects each of the rear seat mount mechanisms. with a flashlight, I can just barely SEE the bolt heads and there is NO room to get ANYTHING on the bolt to turn it, as the seat rail and/or adjustment frame is right on top of it (... approx 1/8" clearance). WHAT am I missing???!!! Again, this is a factory 2005 TJ with factory installed seats... It CAN'T be that difficult.
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Old 03-09-2011, 06:49 AM   #5
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Before you go through the expense of adding risers and busting knuckles on the bolts, make sure she can still reach the pedals safely. Especially if it's a manual. If she has to sit too close to the wheel, the air bag could get dangerous.

I'm 5' 6" and I've had to drive to work sitting on top of a towel more times than I can count. Just that little inch or so makes a big difference in being able to see over the hood. You may be able to make her happy with some thick padded seat covers.

FWIW, I dated a girl that was 4' 10" and she never complained about not being able to see over the dash of her TJ. I think she may have been used to it since her first car was a Dodge Raider and then the TJ. Hers was the first Jeep I had a chance to drive. After we broke up I could finally afford one of my own!
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One thing about newer vs. older Jeeps, they have two different seat heights. Older Jeep seats are positioned high enough to see out easily but the factory had to lower newer TJ seats down sometime in the early 2000's to meet an airbag safety requirement. So someone might have been able to see out of their older TJ very well but not so well out of a newer TJ. I've had both and there's a dramatic difference in the seat height between older TJs and newer TJs.
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Old 03-09-2011, 11:35 AM   #7
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Soooooo.... HOW do I remove the rear set of bolts from the seats???!!!
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With a torx bit adapter on a 1/2" drive ratchet wrench. The torx bit adapter for that size bolt has a 3/8" drive size opening so you'll need a 1/2" to 3/8" adapter. I say to use a 1/2" drive ratchet instead of a 3/8" because that particular bolt is held in with Locktite so you need more leverage against it that the 1/2" ratchet drive can provide. You'd have a little trouble breaking it free with a 3/8" drive ratchet wrench.

Keep downward pressure on that torx bit since you don't want that bolt head stripping out. It's tight in the back where those bolts are but not tight enough you can't get the bolts in and out, I've had my seats out out 7-8 times over the years.
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I have had the seats out of two or three Wranglers and it,s very easy .
Move the seat back as far as you can take out the front two Bolts then move the seat forward as far as you can . For the back bolts I set in the back .
It,s a ten minute job for one seat

I see the risers look like TC drop kit spacers ?? BANGER

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