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Old 04-18-2007, 04:06 PM   #1
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Quick question regarding wheels, tires and warranties

I was talking to the guy at the Jeep service dept. to figure out what he would let me get away with, without voiding my warranty and we got on the subject of tire size. He said that
31's could fit but they would void my warranty but I could put whatever size wheels I wanted, up to a 22" and tire to fill in the wheel well area (as long as there was no rubbing and it does not extend past my fender) and that would not void my warranty. Why can I go as large as I want with wheels but not just tires?


Also, he said he would let me do whatever I wanted as long as I didn't go too extreme. He told me outside that he had to talk about the warrenty in the building. His only word of caution was that if I was out of town and something broke, the dealership that I took it to would probably take me for all my money.

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Old 04-18-2007, 04:14 PM   #2
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Personally I'd talk to a different dealership. There is no reason what so ever that 31's should void your warranty. Hell the Rubicon model's come with 31's stock. The new JK Rubicon's come with 32's stock. They have to prove that the upgraded parts caused whatever is broken to fail.

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Old 04-18-2007, 04:24 PM   #3
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I don't know, I'm new to all this. That is just what he told me. He said that he would let me do whatever because we deal with them so much. 7 people at our house 7 mopars, looks like a new/used car dealership. The main question I had was why tires would void but wheels wouldn't. He said with wheels, I could get a lift, 3.5" w/ 22's over stock 15's and with the right tires I could fill in the wheel wells more than stock, all without voiding my warranty.

Not that I would ever go with 22's! 17's or 18's at the most but I would be so worried about tearing them up, so I doubt I will ever do that.
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Old 04-18-2007, 04:32 PM   #4
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My dealership has honored all my warranty despite my mods. I blew the engine at 30,000 and I got a complete new one for free.
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Old 04-18-2007, 04:46 PM   #5
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I run 33" x 12.5" tires on 15"x8" rims and a 3.5 short arm lift plus lots of additional electrical for lights and stuff. I've had no problems at all with warranty work. My dealer said that they would have to prove that the mod was responsible for the problem in order for it not to be covered. To the best of my knowledge, nothing voids the warranty on the DC components except neglect.
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Old 04-18-2007, 05:11 PM   #6
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Spend enough time on many of the forums and you'll come across many dealers who have theoreticaly voided warranties on owners Jeeps. The primary reasons for doing this has been lifts, tires sizes and off road use or abuse, the latter of which seems to be determined by scratches and such on the undercarriage.

In truth, if warranty is denied, the manufacturer is required to proove that the failure of the item was caused by the modification or abuse but in actual practice they seem to pick and choose what they will repair and on which vehicles.

An increased tire size increases the rolling mass and the rotational torque on the axles. This can cause axle shafts and u-joints to fail more easily. Larger wheels with the same outer diameter tire do not have this same issue.
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Old 04-18-2007, 05:21 PM   #7
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What are the odd's that upgrading to 31's will actually break something? I only ask because I have 6 years left on my warranty. Once I finish school and actually have a decent job, I won't rely on the warranty so much, but right now I can't afford not to have it. Like I said, I'm not worried about my local dealership, I just don't want to be out of town and have something break, just to get royally screwed.
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I've never heard of a dealer refusing a warranty claim because of 31's. Nor is that a size that will cause any prolems in and of itself. You should be fine.

Now 35's, that's another story .
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IMO he's just trying to scare you a little bit. Running with 31's will realistically cause no more stress on your vehicle than stock tires. And most likely any other dealership won't even realize that you have an "Other than stock" tire size. Like I said, so many of the TJ's and JK's now come with 31" and bigger tires that it's not something they are going to look at.

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What are the odd's that upgrading to 31's will actually break something? I only ask because I have 6 years left on my warranty. Once I finish school and actually have a decent job, I won't rely on the warranty so much, but right now I can't afford not to have it. Like I said, I'm not worried about my local dealership, I just don't want to be out of town and have something break, just to get royally screwed.
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my dealership sells jeeps with lifts and 33's on them all day long. they will even put on any lift and tire combo size you want as long as the 4x4 shop they use can get it. i talked to them about all that to finance when i bought my jeep but it was way more expensive then me doing it over a few years in my driveway. the ones they sell like that come with the full factory warrenty.

also i have seen several highly modded rubicons in there for services i i would assume they still had warrenty on em.

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Old 04-18-2007, 06:06 PM   #11
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The guy at the dealership told me that in the shop. he said he had to since we were inside. Once we got outside he told me I could do anything I wanted and he would honor my warranty. I am just worried about other dealerships. I am going to upgrade soon. Someone here told me before to go with BFG AT's, those are good tires correct?
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You might want to read up on the Magnuson-Moss Act to better understand your rights with the dealer. If the dealer automatically says that the warranty in void simply because of a mod. It is my understanding that this is Illegal. But as I understand the act if you put 33's on a stock jeep and it ripped your fenders off they they can choose to not honor the warranty. Essentially, if a mod did not directly cause the failure then the warranty is not void. (this is the way I read it, and I suggest everyone with a warranty reads it).
To add almost all the dealers around here run 31's on the new one on their lots.

Honestly that dealer is as bad as the guy I dealt with at Ford that tried to void my warranty on my F-150 because I did my own oil changes. Lawyer took care of that in a hurry.

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The deal with the warranty is, and this is Jeep's warranty, if the modification led to the breakage, then you would be responsible for the repair. However they would have to prove that the modification caused the failure.

Extended warranties will vary. If you have an extended warranty, read the fine print.

Your service department should have explained this to you. Did you talk to the Service Manager or just one of the technicians?
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What are the odd's that upgrading to 31's will actually break something? I only ask because I have 6 years left on my warranty.
Ok you have an extended warranty, this is completely different. Read the fine print on your warranty and it will tell you what you can and cannot do. If you haven't used your extended warranty yet, I would cancel it. You can usually get your money back if you haven't used the warranty at all. Unless it's a super shady warranty company.
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Old 04-18-2007, 10:16 PM   #15
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I bought the extended warranty when I bought my jeep. I would assume it is from Jeep since the vehicle was brand new and I added at the time of purchase right. I'm not really worried about the extended warrenty so much. By the time it goes into affect I will be out of school and have a decent job and won't actually have to worry about being strapped of something goes wrong. I just want to make sure the important stuff is covered; engine, transmission, etc... The just at the dealership told me it is because of ruybbing if you go to big and excess strain on parts. I'm not going to worry about the wheels voiding the warranty and go ahead and get some bigger one soon, hopefully. I will use the argument that it can as an option, why can't I add it.
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Don't assume it's from Jeep. You can get all kinds of companies to sell you a warranty on a brand new Jeep. Get your contract out and read it. If you don't it's pure laziness and you deserve whatever you get. Whatever is covered and not covered and the restrictions will all be in the paperwork that came with your Jeep. IE all the paperwork you left the dealer with that day. If you aren't worried about needing the extended warranty, then why have it? If you aren't worried, then why ask the question?
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it was pretty much free, like $2 more/month
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It was part of a presidents day promo. Plus like I previously stated, I just want to make sure the most important and expensive items are covered; engine, transmission, etc... It's not that I don't want it, not having to worry about anything for the next six years is nice. I just hate the fact that I have to wait to do any major mods.

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