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Old 07-11-2012, 10:24 AM   #1
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I want to upgrade my gears from a horrible 3.07 to 4.11 on a Dana 35C and Dana 30, if I were to go to the junk yard and pull the carrier, ring and pinion from a Cherokee with the same axles would it be a direct fit or would I just be wasting my time?

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I want to upgrade my gears from a horrible 3.07 to 4.11 on a Dana 35C and Dana 30, if I were to go to the junk yard and pull the carrier, ring and pinion from a Cherokee with the same axles would it be a direct fit or would I just be wasting my time?
Wasting your time.

If you have the necessary skills to install your own gears, you should just buy a new set of quality gearsets.

The majority of the cost for a gearset change is typically the labor involved.

New parts should give you some peace of mind re: durability.

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It would be wasting your time to dump money into that 35c. It's not a strong axle and doesn't take much to break it honestly. i would go with an 8.8, they came with LSD's and 4.10's (well some did). Make a few brackets for it and regear the front and you are money ahead. Not to mention an 8.8 is stronger than a D44.
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Well to be honest a stock Dana 44 on a jeep isn't much stronger than a 35C, the only main difference is the C clip on the 35 c, if chrysler had made the C clip then forged the metal it would be alot stronger, but they did it backwards....

You have to do something retarded to screw a 35C up, which alot of people don't know the fine line between normal and retarded
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Well to be honest a stock Dana 44 on a jeep isn't much stronger than a 35C, the only main difference is the C clip on the 35 c, if chrysler had made the C clip then forged the metal it would be alot stronger, but they did it backwards....

You have to do something retarded to screw a 35C up, which alot of people don't know the fine line between normal and retarded
Well first off jeep didn't make the axle. It's called a dana 35C so that means Dana Corp made it. 35c will break easier than you think.
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Well to be honest a stock Dana 44 on a jeep isn't much stronger than a 35C, the only main difference is the C clip on the 35 c, if chrysler had made the C clip then forged the metal it would be alot stronger, but they did it backwards....
The TJ's Dana 44 axle is significantly (!) stronger than the Dana 35c. The Dana 44's larger diameter ring gear is significantly stronger and the Dana 44's axle shafts are 30 spline vs. the Dana 35c's smaller diameter and break-prone 27 spline shafts. There is a night and day difference in the strengths of the Dana 35c vs. the Dana 44. For up to 35" tires, people hammer on even locked Dana 44 axles without problem... me included. Two different TJs, both locked front and rear with 35" tires, never a problem with either of its Dana 44 axles. Do I do trails tough enough to break axles & axle shafts? Yep, I broke my Dana 30 twice and grenaded my first TJ's OE Dana 35c early in the game.

And FYI, the Dana 35c's c-clip doesn't actually weaken its shafts... the shafts are the same strength whether it's a pre-C-clip design or post-C-Clip design. The c-clip itself is completely protected behind the carrier and isn't subjected to forces applied to the axle. The only problem the c-clip causes is if the axle shaft snaps, the outboard parts of the break will slide out of the axle housing taking the wheel with it.

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