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Old 09-29-2013, 06:33 PM   #1
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Rear bumper and tire carrier options

im in the market for a simple rear bumper/tire carrier. i dont want anything that has to mount on the tail gate. i just want something simple and cheap. like the smittybilt src classic, or e-autogrilles Classic Rock Crusher Crawler REAR BUMPER+TIRE CARRIER.

now to be more specific both my work and school are very close to my house so the only time i put my spare tire on would be for long trips or going on trails. i have 31's and maybe going to 33's i just wanted to know if the tire carrier can be removed from the bumper without any issues. like rust

might be a dumb question so sorry

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Old 09-29-2013, 06:37 PM   #2
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I'll suggest TheDirtWorx tire carrier. Simple, solid, functional, cheap, and American made. Here's my write up I did on it if you're interested. Lots of pics included. Obviously I got mine customized. You can get it without the hi-lift carrier. And you can remove the carrier portion. But it'd be a lot easier to just remove the spare.

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I too ordered Dirtworx, just arrived last week. Also ordered a front matching bumper, hipefully will install in next couple weeks. Here is a photo of what it looks like (not my jeep or photo) and priced nicely too!
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Sorry, forgot to post the link. Here ya go http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/dirt...ew-242888.html
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ordered the e autogrilles rear bumper with tire carrier today read alot of good reviews and for 300 bucks its about the cheapest u gonna find, read bad reviews on the smittybuilt, the dirtworx gets good reviews to.
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im in the market for a simple rear bumper/tire carrier. i dont want anything that has to mount on the tail gate. i just want something simple and cheap. like the smittybilt src classic, or e-autogrilles Classic Rock Crusher Crawler REAR BUMPER+TIRE CARRIER.

now to be more specific both my work and school are very close to my house so the only time i put my spare tire on would be for long trips or going on trails. i have 31's and maybe going to 33's i just wanted to know if the tire carrier can be removed from the bumper without any issues. like rust

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If you only have 31's/33's why do a swingout tire carrier? You mention simple/cheap...........you could just stick with the stock setup or look into the EXOGATE(Which basically keeps the factory look/form/functionality) in place but upgrading and reinforcing the tailgate hinge system. Its under $400 and pretty much fits your criteria. TJ/LJ Exogate™ Tailgate Kit
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I need a bumper with a hitch and when i take the tire off i dont want the carrier showing. i want to keep it clean cut esspecially since the tire wont be on most of the time
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I bought a Smittybilt classic rear bumper w/ carrier and I am happy. It has been on about 10 months and the finish is still intact (even after playing in the rocks) and there is zero signs of rust. I needed a hitch and was in a pinch and the local 4wheelparts had it in stock. It was definately a good purchase.

(on a side note, I have a front bumper and rock sliders by Smitty and I am equally happy with them as well, no rust and finish is still holding up great!)
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I need a bumper with a hitch and when i take the tire off i dont want the carrier showing. i want to keep it clean cut esspecially since the tire wont be on most of the time
So get a separate bumper with hitch. And paint or powder coat the EXOGATE to match the body. Example, here is a TJ where another member runs with his spare off most of the time, he also has a separate bumper with a hitch, just like I do. He did up his 2 tone, main frame the body color and the hinges black. You could also do the entire thing in one color too.
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i just think that its overpriced


if it was 200 i would get it in a heart beat
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i just think that its overpriced


if it was 200 i would get it in a heart beat
Overpriced? You wouldn't think that if you had it in hand and saw how it takes a natural weak point of the tub and properly reinforced it and braces it. The idea is that it allows you to run a 35", 37" spare or larger on the back while retaining the stock look and functionality of the tail gate.

There are a few pics of a guy standing on top of his 35" spare while mounted on the EXOGATE. 300 plus pounds and the tailgate and tailgate hinges and it doesn't flex or warp at all.

Its nice being able to run a 35" spare and still be able to get into the back cargo compartment without having to swing out 2 doors, latches etc. And it significantly reduces the weight over a swing out carrier and keeps the departure angle intact as well. $385 shipped is also a bargain on comparison to a decent swingout which will cost double the price, many times more than triple/quadruple in fact. Love mine, would never waste a dime on a swingout.
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...There are a few pics of a guy standing on top of his 35" spare while mounted on the EXOGATE. 300 plus pounds and the tailgate and tailgate hinges and it doesn't flex or warp at all...


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Overpriced? You wouldn't think that if you had it in hand and saw how it takes a natural weak point of the tub and properly reinforced it and braces it. The idea is that it allows you to run a 35", 37" spare or larger on the back while retaining the stock look and functionality of the tail gate.
theres no doubt in my mind that they are practical and a great design. they do reinforce the tub and tailgate. but at the end of the day its just 2 hinges and some square steel tubing. materials and labor cost should be nowhere near $400. please dont take offense to my opinion i just cant see myself paying that much for it.
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theres no doubt in my mind that they are practical and a great design. they do reinforce the tub and tailgate. but at the end of the day its just 2 hinges and some square steel tubing. materials and labor cost should be nowhere near $400. please dont take offense to my opinion i just cant see myself paying that much for it.
And that's pretty much all a swing out tire carrier is too, normally less one hinge and a bit more square and round stock. I brought up the EXOGATE because in honesty it fits your criteria better in a lot of ways.

And I can say that it is ALOT more durable than the Smittybilt swing out tire carrier. A friend of mine had to replace his, and did so with the EXOGATE. His tire carrier started to bend over time, the pivot bushing eventually froze up and the base weld started to crack from the weight of a 35" tire. It lasted him just under a year. He was not real happy. But he loves his EXOGATE, and he now runs 37's and his EXOGATE has performed flawlessly. Feels like its riding on ball bearings when it swings open its so smooth. Is it worth $385 in materials and labor? To me it is if it lasts. His Smittybilt sure wasn't worth the $450 he paid for it. Plus he loves the fact that he saved some weight and now doesn't have to fiddle with and open 2 gates just to grab the groceries out of his cargo area.

One thing I can say is that the dual hinges used on the EXOGATE are super heavy duty, the single hinge used on the Chinese Smittybilt and the cheaper knockoff you mentioned is terrible, and the welds and materials used are at best highly suspect. Plus you are limited on mounting positions of the tire, which brings up another advantage to the EXOGATE. Multiple tire offset tire and 3rd light mounting positions.

Again, if you actually were able to play with and see the products up close you would have a completely different outlook.

Regardless good luck with your decision and purchase. My advice to you though is even if the EXOGATE is something you don't want, save your pennies up for at least a DECENT swing out. The 2 choices you have listed are junk. They are cheap for a reason. Better off looking at the dirtworx hand fabbed rear bumper/tire carrier if you need to keep it cheap. I know for a fact that the pivot spindle is much better, and the steel used and welds are much, much better.
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A friend of mine had to replace his, and did so with the EXOGATE. His tire carrier started to bend over time, the pivot bushing eventually froze up and the base weld started to crack from the weight of a 35" tire.....One thing I can say is that the dual hinges used on the EXOGATE are super heavy duty, the single hinge used on the Chinese Smittybilt and the cheaper knockoff you mentioned is terrible, and the welds and materials used are at best highly suspect....
Also, the Exogate hinges have zerk fittings so you can grease them, and they have replaceable bushings in the event there's any wear over the long term.
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im starting to like the exogate the more i look into it but then id also have to drop some money in a new rear bumper
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im starting to like the exogate the more i look into it but then id also have to drop some money in a new rear bumper
Dirtworx rear bumper......cheap......works and looks great with EXOGATE.
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Hey hate to hijack but I have the exogate and it's nice but when I put it on I didn't read anything about aligning the hinges. So I have my 33's on there but the tailgate rubs badly when it closes. How do I align the hinges properly? You can pm me so as not to derail the threadbor anything. Just to add I've heard great things about dirtworks as well! And once the hinges are aligned I would recommend the exogate. Man you spend 400 as opposed to 800 for a tire carrier!
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Hey hate to hijack but I have the exogate and it's nice but when I put it on I didn't read anything about aligning the hinges. So I have my 33's on there but the tailgate rubs badly when it closes. How do I align the hinges properly? You can pm me so as not to derail the threadbor anything. Just to add I've heard great things about dirtworks as well! And once the hinges are aligned I would recommend the exogate. Man you spend 400 as opposed to 800 for a tire carrier!
If you reads steps 9 and 10 in the instructions it will explain to you to adjust the mounting bolts on both sides of the hinges. I am also assuming you did the install while the tailgate was latched to the body too.
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I did have it latched, it shut fine. Then when i put the tire on it sagged. Maybe the hinges aren't tightened? I tried tightening them but they don't budge at all. Oh well, I'll check it out again, haven't had time lately :/
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I did have it latched, it shut fine. Then when i put the tire on it sagged. Maybe the hinges aren't tightened? I tried tightening them but they don't budge at all. Oh well, I'll check it out again, haven't had time lately :/
Sounds like you didn't account for load, or as you said, didn't torque the bolts down properly. I had 0 issues following the instructions to a T. Pics might help though if you can post them.
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Once the tailgate is adjusted and the bolts tightened according to the instructions, the tailgate should stay in adjustment indefinitely. My Exogate hasn't needed adjustment in years and mine is a preproduction unit without some of the enhancements the production units have - it's been on my Jeep almost 3 years now. I usually carry more load on mine than most - large spare, the Safari Cab barn door upper, and some cargo, in this case a jerry can and a rack with a cooler and an ammo can (the load isn't strapped down yet in this photo, photo was taken before hitting the road ).

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cool beans! I'll check it out this weekend. I'll be doing some final preps before winter sets in. Let you know how it goes.
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does the exogate completely replace the oem hinges? or just reinforce them? I need new hinges for my tailgate anyways, so if it replaces them I may go with that, rather then replace the hinges and buy a bumper/tire carrier.
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does the exogate completely replace the oem hinges? or just reinforce them? I need new hinges for my tailgate anyways, so if it replaces them I may go with that, rather then replace the hinges and buy a bumper/tire carrier.
Completely replaces them.

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