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Old 03-31-2013, 09:25 AM   #31
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yes they do. i have them installed currently. heavy guage steel. i love them and for the price, even more!
THanks man! DO they hook to the frame or just to the side of the jeep?

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AHHHHH - Just as I'm about to bite the bullet on a set of Smittybilt XRC front, rear w/ carrier, and rocker guards (for $1080 shipped) I find this post! Now I have some deciding to do as well!!! Does e-auto grilles offer a rocker guard set as well???
The very LAST brand of bumper & tire carrier I would install is Smittybilt. It just won't hold up... it is imported from China and you can count on it rattling, sagging, & rusting before you would expect it to.

Personally, I haven't seen a bumper-mounted spare tire carrier I'd bother to install. They all totally depend on the bumper & one sole main support point for strength which is just not a good way to do it from an engineering point of view.

The only type of carrier I believe is up to carrying larger size tires, like 35" and larger, is one that is supported by more points like the U.S. made roll-bar base supported carrier made by Offroad Fabricators. When closed, it has three structural support points and when open, it is supported by two structural support points.

A design like the ORF uses a pair of hidden support brackets that bolt to the rear rollbar support bases where it just doesn't get any stronger. I've had ORF's carrier on two different TJs & had it on my previous TJ for ten years, two years on my current TJ. Absolutely no sag or rattles. Even just before my previous TJ was stolen three years ago, its ORF carrier still swung perfectly into its driver's side support without the need to lift it at all. That was after 10+ years supporting a 35x12.50 tire & two usually full 5 gallon jerry cans which is an option for the ORF carrier.

Jeep Carriers (doesn't carry jerry cans)

Jeep Can (carries two jerry cans)

And a nice added benefit to that design is you can run any rear bumper you want.

Here are a couple pics of ORF's carrier on my '97 (red) & '04 (black) TJs. I didn't go for the jerry can version for the '04.
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The very LAST brand of bumper & tire carrier I would install is Smittybilt. It just won't hold up... it is imported from China and you can count on it rattling, sagging, & rusting before you would expect it to.

Personally, I haven't seen a bumper-mounted spare tire carrier I'd bother to install. They all totally depend on the bumper & one sole main support point for strength which is just not a good way to do it from an engineering point of view.

The only type of carrier I believe is up to carrying larger size tires, like 35" and larger, is one that is supported by more points like the roll-bar base supported carrier made by Offroad Fabricators. When closed, it has three structural support points and when open, it is supported by two structural support points.

A design like the ORF uses a pair of hidden support brackets that bolt to the rear rollbar support bases where it just doesn't get any stronger. I've had ORF's carrier on two different TJs & had it on my previous TJ for ten years, two years on my current TJ. Absolutely no sag or rattles. Even just before my previous TJ was stolen three years ago, its ORF carrier still swung perfectly into its driver's side support without the need to lift it at all. That was after 10+ years supporting a 35x12.50 tire & two usually full 5 gallon jerry cans which is an option for the ORF carrier.

Jeep Carriers (doesn't carry jerry cans)

Jeep Can (carries two jerry cans)

And a nice added benefit to that design is you can run any rear bumper you want.

Here are a couple pics of ORF's carrier on my '97 (red) & '04 (black) TJs. I didn't go for the jerry can version for the '04.
Are the Pavement Ends (Bestop) bumpers made in China?
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Are the Pavement Ends (Bestop) bumpers made in China?
I don't know where they are made but it wouldn't surprise me if they were.
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Are the Pavement Ends (Bestop) bumpers made in China?
Probably. My Bestop tire carrier was made in China. That said, I am happy with it. The top mount ties into the roll bar, but I beefed up their bracket substantially, and also enhanced the lower mount inside the body. It is completely rattle and squeak free, works great.



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Probably. My Bestop tire carrier was made in China. That said, I am happy with it. The top mount ties into the roll bar, but I beefed up their bracket substantially, and also enhanced the lower mount inside the body. It is completely rattle and squeak free, works great.
That's what I figured, as they're price much lower than the Bestop bumpers. Thanks!
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I bought a set of cheap sockets at Autozone a few weeks ago (keep in mind 95% of my tools are Snap-On) and was actually excited to see they were made in Taiwan..
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I don't know where they are made but it wouldn't surprise me if they were.
Thanks! I'm going to stick with Made in U.S.A. parts!
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THanks man! DO they hook to the frame or just to the side of the jeep?
they do to both. the bottom plate that wraps under the rockers slide in between the tub and body mounts. then on the sides, you have to drill holes in the tube for all the screws to bolt through. i used permatex in each hole just as an extra step
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I bought a set of cheap sockets at Autozone a few weeks ago (keep in mind 95% of my tools are Snap-On) and was actually excited to see they were made in Taiwan..
The HF torque wrenches are made in Taiwan.
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The HF torque wrenches are made in Taiwan.
Better than PRC where I suspected they were from. I really like my HFT torque wrenches, they are one of the only tools there I consider worth buying.
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Better than PRC where I suspected they were from.
That's why I was "happy" about Taiwanese sockets.
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Better than PRC where I suspected they were from. I really like my HFT torque wrenches, they are one of the only tools there I consider worth buying.
Im glad to hear you like them, i have been on the fence about picking some up.
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The very LAST brand of bumper & tire carrier I would install is Smittybilt. It just won't hold up... it is imported from China and you can count on it rattling, sagging, & rusting before you would expect it to.

Personally, I haven't seen a bumper-mounted spare tire carrier I'd bother to install. They all totally depend on the bumper & one sole main support point for strength which is just not a good way to do it from an engineering point of view.

The only type of carrier I believe is up to carrying larger size tires, like 35" and larger, is one that is supported by more points like the U.S. made roll-bar base supported carrier made by Offroad Fabricators. When closed, it has three structural support points and when open, it is supported by two structural support points.

A design like the ORF uses a pair of hidden support brackets that bolt to the rear rollbar support bases where it just doesn't get any stronger. I've had ORF's carrier on two different TJs & had it on my previous TJ for ten years, two years on my current TJ. Absolutely no sag or rattles. Even just before my previous TJ was stolen three years ago, its ORF carrier still swung perfectly into its driver's side support without the need to lift it at all. That was after 10+ years supporting a 35x12.50 tire & two usually full 5 gallon jerry cans which is an option for the ORF carrier.

Jeep Carriers (doesn't carry jerry cans)

Jeep Can (carries two jerry cans)

And a nice added benefit to that design is you can run any rear bumper you want.

Here are a couple pics of ORF's carrier on my '97 (red) & '04 (black) TJs. I didn't go for the jerry can version for the '04.
I can't seem to figure out exactly the or fab carrier bolts on. Reason I ask is that I have the extended metal cloak guards and was wondering if the or fab was compatible with them.

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