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Old 04-14-2008, 11:10 AM   #1
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Post Rear Bumper w/ Tire Carrier Suggestions!

Hey guys I need help on picking out a good rear bumper/tire carrier. I need something that is towing rated and would prefer it to not be tubular. I have seen the Fab Fours and ARB units and they are nice, but what a price tag. Thanks for the help and send pics please.

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I've never seen a combination rear bumper/tire carrier that I liked or thought would hold up. In fact, many designs like that develop problems, especially at the passenger-side spare tire carrier's pivot point.

What I did was go with an ORF (Off-Road Fabricators) spare tire carrier which doesn't use the bumper itself. It bolts through the tub to brackets that are bolted to the rollbar mounts so it is supported by the rollbar mounts, it doesn't get any more solid than that. 7 years later and it's still rattle-free and zero sag, even though it also has also been holding two full 5 gallon jerry cans most of that time (you can buy the ORF carrier with or without the jerry can holder ability).

That leaves your rear bumper choice wide open. I kept my Olympic bumper in the rear which has a 2" receiver/tow hitch integrated into the bumper instead of just being welded on underneath like most do. The benefit to that is the hitch is higher up so it doesn't drag on the terrain or make your departure angle worse.

You can see a few pics of all this on my website, link below. The only pages that don't show the ORF carrier are in the Death Valley area, before I installed the ORF carrier.

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http://www.jpmagazine.com/techarticl...out/index.html

I need a new tire carrier. Been researching and stumbled on this might be a good read for you.
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Thanks Jerry for the interesting option. Does the OR-Fab unit use existing holes to go through the tub or does it require some drilling? Where did you purchase this set up and about how much does it cost? This is for my son's 2001 TJ. We are new to this game and are very excited with all the options available for a Jeep. I'll try to post some pics of the TJ. He is a pretty lucky 16 year old. Thanks again.
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I got mine directly from ORF at http://www.orfab.com/ but there are dealers for it too.

You need to drill a few holes in the tub where they'll be hidden by the tire carrier mount but that's no big deal, the factory drilled our TJs elsewhere many times and our Jeeps manage to stay together just fine.

I couldn't be happier with the ORF carrier, especially when I see all the junk tire carrier designs on various Jeeps, most of which develop problems (rattling, failed bearing, sagging, etc.) sooner or later.
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I second Jerry's recommendation. (He really does know a couple things). I installed the ORF carrier in an afternoon and love it. I watched a guy's tire carrier fall off a few weeks ago on the trail. The pin broke under the weight of a just a 33" tire on a steel rim. My ORF carries a 33" tire, two 5gal cans of gas and my high lift without sagging or rattling.
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how much did you get it for??
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how much did you get it for??
$485 on e-bay
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http://s292.photobucket.com/albums/m...view=slideshow
if this link work's, it show's how i built my rear bumper with a tire carrier. it has a 1 inch trailor spindle at the pivit point.it will never sag.don't rattle either.i had all the steel and only had to spend about 75 buck's for the stuff i didn't have.
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Thanks guys for the reply. Some very good info. Does anyone have any thoughts on the new Bestop High Rock Carrier? Very similar design to the OR-Fab unit.
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Does anyone have any thoughts on the new Bestop High Rock Carrier? Very similar design to the OR-Fab unit.
That's one I've kind of zero'd in on. I prefer the ORF but like the BT price better. Now just wanting some real life product reviews before I get it. Seems like nicolas-eric has one if I remember correctly. Not sure who else.
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i am personally a huge fan of the Jeeperman rear bumper/tire carrier, but they are out of business.
RockHard4x4 makes an almost identical bumper as Jeeperman using the same design and components. it will likely be the bumper/carrier i go with.

it comes as only the bumper and tire carrier, but you can add the upper rack and the jerry can brackets. it has an integrated, flush mounted tow hitch, and welded through d-rings for shackles. it can carry up to a 38" tire. with the frame tie-in brackets, you should have no problems towing anything up to the rated tow weight limit of the jeep.


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That's one I've kind of zero'd in on. I prefer the ORF but like the BT price better. Now just wanting some real life product reviews before I get it. Seems like nicolas-eric has one if I remember correctly. Not sure who else.

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http://www.jeepreviews.com/jeep-part...-tire-carrier/

http://www.jeepreviews.com/jeep-part...-tire-carrier/
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I've never seen a combination rear bumper/tire carrier that I liked or thought would hold up. In fact, many designs like that develop problems, especially at the passenger-side spare tire carrier's pivot point.

What I did was go with an ORF (Off-Road Fabricators) spare tire carrier which doesn't use the bumper itself. It bolts through the tub to brackets that are bolted to the rollbar mounts so it is supported by the rollbar mounts, it doesn't get any more solid than that. 7 years later and it's still rattle-free and zero sag, even though it also has also been holding two full 5 gallon jerry cans most of that time (you can buy the ORF carrier with or without the jerry can holder ability).

That leaves your rear bumper choice wide open. I kept my Olympic bumper in the rear which has a 2" receiver/tow hitch integrated into the bumper instead of just being welded on underneath like most do. The benefit to that is the hitch is higher up so it doesn't drag on the terrain or make your departure angle worse.

You can see a few pics of all this on my website, link below. The only pages that don't show the ORF carrier are in the Death Valley area, before I installed the ORF carrier.
X2 on the OR-Fab Carrier. I have been running this set up for two years now on my YJ. It's a slick set up that carries all the necessities and swings out of the way very easily.

I have a Tomkin rear bumber with integrated hitch that was already on the rig when I bought it.
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I have to say that at least one of the ORF reviews is totally inaccurate where it says you have to remove the rear tire well liner and "gas cannister". I certainly did not have to do either of those, I can't figure out why he felt he had to.

And it's not as difficult as an install as some make it out to be, mine was very straight forward without problem. I have to wonder about their basic mechanical skills when they make comments about the difficulty they had installing it. If it was difficult to install, I would be adding that caveat every time I recommend the ORF carrier. It may be more difficult than Bestop's carrier but it's definitely a night and day comparison between the two. Bestop's is a very light-duty inexpensive short-term solution, ORF's is a very heavy-duty long-term solution that isn't as inexpensive as Bestop's is. Take your choice and live with it. How long you intend to own your TJ should be the other part of this decision.
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I definitely like the ORF better than any other I've looked into for all the reasons JB mentioned...just have a hard time parting with that kind of cash...which is why i'm still stock.
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I have to say that at least one of the ORF reviews is totally inaccurate where it says you have to remove the rear tire well liner and "gas cannister". I certainly did not have to do either of those, I can't figure out why he felt he had to.
The instructions that came with mine tell you to remove the smog canister from behind the passenger side rear tire before you drill the holes into the tub to mount that side bracket. I'm guessing that some idiot drilled through the tub and into the canister somehow and blamed ORF for it. They also tell you to install a bracket in the cavity, but the one they supply doesn't even get close to fitting and there seems to be no real purpose for it anyway.

I found the instructions that were included with the carrier to be confusing and they tried to cover LJ, TJ, and YJ installs in the same instruction manual. But hey, these guys are fabricators, not manual writers. I’d rather have a well designed and built product with crappy instructions than the other way around. I found several write-ups on the web that helped and I found the actual install to be quite easy. Took me about 4 hours total.
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i am personally a huge fan of the Jeeperman rear bumper/tire carrier, but they are out of business.
RockHard4x4 makes an almost identical bumper as Jeeperman using the same design and components. it will likely be the bumper/carrier i go with.

it comes as only the bumper and tire carrier, but you can add the upper rack and the jerry can brackets. it has an integrated, flush mounted tow hitch, and welded through d-rings for shackles. it can carry up to a 38" tire. with the frame tie-in brackets, you should have no problems towing anything up to the rated tow weight limit of the jeep.


X2!!!! I've had mine from rockhard4x4 for the past year and it's held up to the abuse that I've put it through. The pivot point weaking is something that does happen on other tire carriers (like the Daystar RockCrusher tire carrier) but the pivot used on the rockhard4x4 carrier is a larger/beefier unit that's not going to rattle or fall apart. Also their customer service is right on and will answer any questions if you have them
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Hey guys, here is a pic of my son's TJ. It is a 2001 60th anniversary with only 34k miles. It is very clean. I picked it up as seen in the pic with a 3" spacer lift and brand new 33x12.50 BFG AT's. I just installed 4 new Rancho RS9000XL shocks and what a difference. We are a work in progress. I do some trail riding plans but nothing to extreme. Mostly his commute to and from high school and baseball games with some offroading on weekends. We plan on getting new wheels with less backspacing and an additional 33 BFG. This is the main reason for the need for some sort of tire carrier whether it be a bumper mount or body mount. Also soon to purchase some adjustable track bars and sway bar discos. Once again thanks and all input is valuable.
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i just think it's awesome you're as excited about your son's TJ as he probably is. something tells me Dad will be getting one of his own sometime soon.

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