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Old 03-31-2011, 09:43 AM   #1
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Rear gate hinges

Ok I got a question, on a 2001 TJ should the gate hinges be so tight that you have to yank on the gate to open it and push really hard to move it?
Or do I need to take the hinges apart and repair them?
I triede removing the spare and its just as hard.

Oh I've tried WD 40 and PB blaster also. Its like opening a door on a old car that sat in a farmers field for 40 years.

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Old 03-31-2011, 10:27 AM   #2
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first i would simply loosen the hinge bolts and see if that fixes it. this would ensure that its not on a bind. if that loosens it, just retighten and go.
if not, then i would take the hinges off, soak them in some CLR. this will probably hose your paint but will dissolve any rust, contaminants inside the hinge allowing it to move freely. rinse thoroughly, prime and repaint. after a few days for the paint to fully cure, i would saturate the hinge in Kroil. its all i use cause it flows far better and is more effective than any other lubricant i have found.
i guess the simpler way is just replace the hinges but im more of a do-it-myself guy.
if all that seems too much, you could remove them, soak them in lubricant and just work the hell out of them by hand so get them freed up.

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Old 03-31-2011, 10:39 AM   #3
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Chances are good that somebody backed into your rig and hit the spare tire...had it happen to me on the trail and in a parking lot. That 'tweaks' the tailgate just enough that the hinges are out of whack. So if you can't get lubricant down into the pins to help it, you have to back off the mounting bolts/screws to allow the hinge plate to line up better. IF you can, remove the hinges, clean them off, and then put white lithium grease on the pin and in the hinge. This will last longer than any spray oil will because it is a grease, not an oil. Remember, when you put the gate back on and start tightening up the hinges, lift UP on the latch end to compensate for the weight of the spare tire. Otherwise the tire weight will push the gate 'down' again and make it hard to open. Did that on my YJ...had it all lined up great, opened and closed with one finger...put the spare tire on and could hardly open it and couldn't close it without lifting up the spare! So we had to reset the hinges WITH the spare tire on it. Now it works great....
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Old 03-31-2011, 10:47 AM   #4
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good point NHrubicon, i always assume on the side of common sense, but if it was common, everyone would have some
to make sure you dont need three hands Wolfen, use a stand, chair, etc that is the height you need. get something just lower then build it up in small increments to the correct height. (unless you have an adjustable stand for installing doors or trannys)
then you can tighten with the tire on without struggling unless you have a buddy that can assist you.
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Old 03-31-2011, 12:20 PM   #5
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Great advice it fixed my rear gate problem
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Old 03-31-2011, 02:24 PM   #6
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Thanks guys, I'm betting on NHrubicon being right cause when we first bought it three years ago the gate worked fine than all of a sudden it didn't, I've never seen any physical damage so I just went on my way.

I can get the hinges off and apart easy enough, so I'll probably do that one at a time with the spare tire off.

One question though when I take em apart for cleaning and greasing do the pins come out in any particular direction or does it matter?


randy and teri, don't worry, my necks red, I made an adjustable lift about five years ago for the breakfast bar in my wifes kitchen, all I gotta do is weld a hanger on it

I'm lie you I'd much rather do it myself, that way two things I know for sure (1) its done right, (2) I ain't gotta worry about somebody else doing it wrong The only mechanics I trust work on Jeeps, and their ain't a lot of shops for only Jeeps here in Va Beach
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Old 04-02-2011, 05:18 PM   #7
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Heres an update, I tried to loosen them today, guess how many I get to replace? wrong, I only have to replace 6 two of them worked without stripping out, so I loosened the two that worked cycled the door and tightened the screws, nothing its the same.
So my next question is this, which way do the hinge pins come out up or down? And are they tap in or press in? I'm going to disassemble the hinges and grease them when I replace the stripped torx screws.
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Heres an update, I tried to loosen them today, guess how many I get to replace? wrong, I only have to replace 6 two of them worked without stripping out, so I loosened the two that worked cycled the door and tightened the screws, nothing its the same.
So my next question is this, which way do the hinge pins come out up or down? And are they tap in or press in? I'm going to disassemble the hinges and grease them when I replace the stripped torx screws.
IIRC the hinge pins aren't something you can repair/remove. You have to replace the hinges. I believe the pins are pressed in then the ends are flanged down by a press.
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Old 04-03-2011, 01:52 PM   #9
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Thats just great, I was hoping thy were just a simple press in like the door pins are.

but that does explain why they cost so much
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i wasnt sure but was assuming the pins didnt come out, that is why i said to soak them and/or work them till they freed up. how did the bolts strip? were you able to get them out anyhow?
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how were you able to remove the torx hinge bolts after stripping them ?
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how were you able to remove the torx hinge bolts after stripping them ?
Drill 'em out.

OP, did you have anything heavy on the tailgate? Big spare? Cargo rack? My old tailgate got bent up and ruined the hinges from a cargo rack. It's just to much stress on the pins and they deform.
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Old 04-03-2011, 05:30 PM   #13
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No guys I gotta drill em out the torx head is what stripped out, the dam screw didn't move no matter what I did. I tried every trick in the book too, so I'm assuming I have corrosion on the threads holding them just like I did when I had to drill the windshield hinges to relocate the mirrors.
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Drill 'em out.

OP, did you have anything heavy on the tailgate? Big spare? Cargo rack? My old tailgate got bent up and ruined the hinges from a cargo rack. It's just to much stress on the pins and they deform.
Nope just a P235/75R15 Firestone FR380 for a spare covered by a stock tire cover

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