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Old 05-27-2008, 05:23 PM   #1
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rear seat belt removal

my jeep was coverd in sand earlier. i stripped out alot of stuff and took off the front roll cage padding (to throw in the washer) but the back padding is blocked by the rear seat belts. i had an allen wrench turning the bolt but no matter which way i turn it would loosen a bit..then tighten back up. how do you remove em?

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Righty-tighty, lefty-loosey. Their bolts are held in by locktite so they can be difficult to remove. Applying heat from a torch should soften the locktite enough so the bolt will come out more easily. I removed mine without heat but it was very tight. Use a breaker-bar to apply more leverage. And make darned sure not to strip it out as it'd be especially hard to get out after that. You mentioned you used an Allen wrench turning the bolt but on my TJ, it requires a Torx head adapter for that bolt. You don't say what kind of Jeep you have but assuming it's a TJ, I'd make sure I was using the right size torx adapter, not an Allen wrench.

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yeah i must be only jeeper here without a torx set. the allen wrench surprising fit fine, and turned easily without loosing its grip. its not the proper way but no damage was being done to the bolt.

i guess ill just keep turning it left and see what happens. i get alot of resitence after a few full turns which is odd.
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Dude toss that allen wrench back in the tool box, it's just going to strip the bolt out and then you are screwed. Go get yourself a set of quality torx-head adapters, torx-head bolts are used all over the TJ. Use the right tool for the job and you won't regret it later.
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Old 05-27-2008, 06:25 PM   #5
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Old 05-27-2008, 06:31 PM   #6
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i'm pretty sure the most common torx-bit is a size 55, i could be wrong.
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hmm i use 18 or 20 a ton i think or something like that
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The rear seat belts attach at 3 points: upper rear cage, base of rear cage, and the bottom of the tub (you may need to flip seat forward or out to access). All use a T40 Torx bit IIRC. I just removed mine last weekend.
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I have a '98 Jeep TJ and a T40 Torx bit is definitely too small for the seatbelt brackets in the back. Home depot didn't have any larger so I am currently looking for somewhere with larger than a T40 bit. I have no idea why Jeep would use such an obscure size that not even the Home Depot tool department carries.
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I have a '98 Jeep TJ and a T40 Torx bit is definitely too small for the seatbelt brackets in the back. Home depot didn't have any larger so I am currently looking for somewhere with larger than a T40 bit. I have no idea why Jeep would use such an obscure size that not even the Home Depot tool department carries.
sears, an auto parts store, harbor freight..
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I have a '98 Jeep TJ and a T40 Torx bit is definitely too small for the seatbelt brackets in the back. Home depot didn't have any larger so I am currently looking for somewhere with larger than a T40 bit. I have no idea why Jeep would use such an obscure size that not even the Home Depot tool department carries.
HD will carry the common sizes for HOUSEHOLD applications. The size Jeep uses is very common for automotive.

If you want cheap, go to HF.
If you want pricier, autoparts store or Sears. Sears sells them in a kit up to I THINK T-55 or T-60.

When I said T-40 up above, I was apparently off. I think it's a T45 or T50. The kit I have from Sears has the size I needed to remove the points.
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I just did these the other day. they are very tight, but I did them with an redneck rigged torx from a screw driver inserted into a small wrench, then with a metal tube around as a breaker bar. broke the torx like twice. just becareful when your turning the top bolt out there is a plastic tab on that piece and it will cut you :P

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Check your auto parts stores for some of the larger Torx bits.
I snagged a replacement for a broken one at O'Reilleys not too long ago.
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I have no idea why Jeep would use such an obscure size that not even the Home Depot tool department carries.
Home Depot carries a complete set (Husky) which includes all the sizes up through T55. I just bought two sets. They are inexpensive, all you need, right there. The smaller ones are 1/4" drive, the larger ones are 1/2" drive.
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Home Depot carries a complete set (Husky) which includes all the sizes up through T55. I just bought two sets. They are inexpensive, all you need, right there. The smaller ones are 1/4" drive, the larger ones are 1/2" drive.
The larger ones are probably 3/8" drive.
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The larger ones are probably 3/8" drive.
You are correct, sir, my mistake.
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HD will carry the common sizes for HOUSEHOLD applications. The size Jeep uses is very common for automotive.

If you want cheap, go to HF.
If you want pricier, autoparts store or Sears. Sears sells them in a kit up to I THINK T-55 or T-60.

When I said T-40 up above, I was apparently off. I think it's a T45 or T50. The kit I have from Sears has the size I needed to remove the points.
What is HF? I just want to take th carpet out in the back because it doesn't stay up when you take the seat in and out a lot like I do. If I can't find this bit I'm just going to cut the carpet out. I can't stand it hanging lose up the sides like that getting in the way
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Sears tool department will have all the torx sizes in stock, though I don't have trouble finding replacement torx bits and sets at any tool store I happen to be in. HF is Harbor Freight Tools.

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