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Old 07-20-2009, 02:03 PM   #1
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Rear Tire Mnts. ??

What is the point of having a hinging rear tire mount? is it good to get them off the rear tailgate? do you have to open up both if you need to get into the back? or are they attached?

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Old 07-20-2009, 02:22 PM   #2
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Mounting one to the tailgate is more convenient for opening and closing, and unless you've gone to really big tires, plenty strong enough (you do want to make sure the tire doesn't bounce and move, since this will eventually start tearing your tailgate apart).

The aftermarket bumper mount carriers are less convenient, but stronger. On most, you need to swing the tire out of the way before opening the tailgate.

Besides being stornger, you also get some other advantages with the aftermarket bumpers, like tow strap attachments, accessory mounting (jacks and gas cans, that sort of stuff). Plus some are really cool looking.

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Takes the weight off the door. Mine is tweaked slightly with a heavy duty carrier and my 33x10.50/15 Mud Terrain KM2 on it. I will be shopping for a carrier very soon.
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The need for aftermarket tire carriers exists because the OE spare tire bracket won't hold up for long once you get to about the 33x12.50 size. Mine cracked and nearly failed after six months of carrying a 33x12.50 tire even though I had taken the precaution of making the spare tire bumper snubbers taller so the 33x12.50 spare tire couldn't wiggle thereby flexing the mount which hastens its failure.

Most are opened first, then the tailgate is opened next.
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I think I messed up my earlier comment. Generally speaking:
Stock is fine for up to 33" tires, unless you do a lot of really bumpy driving.
Aftermarket tailgate mounts work for up to 37" tires.
Bumper mounts are almost always the only option after 37". But obviously work well with smaller tires too.

Again, generally speaking. There are so many of these on the market that the variations are endless.
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I think I messed up my earlier comment. Generally speaking:
Stock is fine for up to 33" tires, unless you do a lot of really bumpy driving.
Aftermarket tailgate mounts work for up to 37" tires.
Bumper mounts are almost always the only option after 37". But obviously work well with smaller tires too.

Again, generally speaking. There are so many of these on the market that the variations are endless.
You left out the ORF (Off Road Fabricators) spare tire carrier that is not bumper mounted. It is bolted through the tub (the tub's sheet metal does not support the weight) to separate brackets hidden underneath that bolt to and are supported by the rollbar bases. This keeps the weight off the bumper, tailgate, and tub but easily supports huge spare tires. Mine has been installed nearly 8 years and even though it has supported two usually full jerry cans (which mount on it too) plus a heavy 35x12.50 MT/R all those years, it is still tight, rattle-free, and sag-free.

I've yet to see a bumper mounted spare tire carrier that impressed me enough to want to swap my ORF carrier for it.
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I may be in the market for an aftermarket bumper mounted tire carrier pretty dam soon. I have a 32x11.5" BFG spare and I just noticed that I can no longer close the rear gate unless I lift it a bit. Due to the weight the latch no longer lines up right.
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Jerry: good point!

Maybe I should've called those "frame mounted" tire carriers or something like that. Very strong option. Somewhat harder to install.

The disadvantage would probably only be the lack of the options that a bumper mount might give. (but of course, you can still get a bumper).
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As soon as I went to 35's, I made a rear bumper/tire combo. I've never seen the type Jerry is talking about. Although I would like to. Most after market bumper manufactures also have a provision for a spare tire carrier. If you are somewhat creative and can weld, you can make one for pretty cheap. Here's some pics of the last one I built. Newbe in central Ca. It was made to fit up to a 38" tire. I am currently running 37 MRT's.
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As soon as I went to 35's, I made a rear bumper/tire combo. I've never seen the type Jerry is talking about. Although I would like to.
Here ya go... OR FAB Jeep Swing-A-Way Tire/Can Carrier

This is what the ORF carrier looks like without its two usual jerry cans and spare tire. On this particular trail (Sledgehammer) it's best to lighten the Jeep as much as possible and remove anything that overhangs. As you can see, it doesn't care what kind of bumper you run.
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Nice. Now that I see that pic, I do remember seeing those.

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