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Old 03-16-2012, 09:01 PM   #1
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Reliability

Thinking about getting a TJ as a daily driver next year. Although I know they're all different, how are they generally on reliability? Also, will a stock TJ have trouble hitting 65 on the highway?

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If I remember right, my old '94 YJ would do 70mph on the fwy at about 2,500 rpm and the ride was quite smooth. I had to hit about 90 before it started feeling a little squirrelly. My new 06' TJ runs a little higher in the rpms at fwy speed but is still quite manageable. Both had/have I6 engines.

I guess they're about as reliable as any other tractor or farm vehicle .

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Old 03-16-2012, 09:11 PM   #3
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The 4.0 will be fine. The 2.5 is awful on the highway.

The 4.0 is bullet proof. Depending on miles I would find one that has already been through the repairs.
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I see. I would really love to get out and drive one, since I never have. I've wanted one ever since I was little, though.

It's difficult to find a used one to drive, since I have no intention of buying for a few months. The only person I know with a Wrangler has a JK, and I'm not going to drive that.

Why exactly are Jeeps so noisy? Where does this noise come from?
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The noise is mostly wind and road noise from the thin tops and no insulation around the tub. The soft top is noisier than the hard, but both are noisy compared to a regular vehicle's ride.

I went from a YJ in '94 to a full size pickup in '95 to a crewcab pickup in '01 and now I'm back to a TJ. The wife and I both missed the YJ when we sold it and we're both very happy to be back in a Jeep.

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Old 03-16-2012, 09:28 PM   #6
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Edit: A test drive of used vehicles at the dealership is free, provided you don't get hooked by the salesman. That'll give you a taste of how they drive. And you'll see what the market is for your area so you'll know what is a fair price when its really time to buy.

I bought mine private from a local guy selling his off Craigslist two days after I sold my Supercrew through Craigslist.

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The 4.0 will be fine. The 2.5 is awful on the highway.

The 4.0 is bullet proof. Depending on miles I would find one that has already been through the repairs.
Can u tell me a little more about the repairs u mentioned. i am currently looking at an 03 ruby auto with a hard top. 80,000 miles asking 11800. i was thinking of offering ten but nada says around 14000 so i dont think they will budge. sorry about the hijak...
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Why exactly are Jeeps so noisy? Where does this noise come from?
It's a freakin' brick. The windshield is at about an 89.9 degree angle...

Still fun though. My Jeep came with 3.07 gears. It did have trouble on the highway until I had 3.73 gears put it. Now, with the exception of the noise, it's good on the highway.


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Does rain leak through the Hard Top or is that just a problem usually with the soft top?
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I have an 02 sport with half doors and soft top. The noise is not as bad as I thought it would be. It will comfortably do 70-75, but mpg will suck!

I enjoy mine and bought it with 55,000 on the odo and love driving it every chance I get. I changed plugs and all fluids (tcase was ugly fluid) but need to look at the fuel injectors since I avg 13-14 right now.

The 4.0 is solid and reliable and you can do all the maint very easily. If you can do minor repairs around the house, you can work on the jeep.

It's fun, and the TJ is a solid and dependable platform.
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Tops usually only leak when their bad, I've put 3 soft tops on mine and never had a leak
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Can u tell me a little more about the repairs u mentioned. i am currently looking at an 03 ruby auto with a hard top. 80,000 miles asking 11800. i was thinking of offering ten but nada says around 14000 so i dont think they will budge. sorry about the hijak...
The '05s and '06s have an two 'issues' with the oil pump drive assembly, bad gears in mostly the '05s and bad lubrication (i.e. none) in the upper gear for both years. The '03 has a different drive and for the most part this is a moot problem (although not unheard of). That's the only major issue other than header cracks that I've read about in the TJs.

I just paid $11.8k for an '06 with 71k, but I have the feeling it was a distress sale. It was very low compared to similar year and mileage vehicles in my area. $11.8 is still a little less than I've seen '03s in my neck of the woods with those kind of miles. For a Rubi, that sounds downright cheap. The only other low miles post-2000 Jeep I was able to find locally in about a month of looking was an '02 with a 4-banger and $80k miles for $10.8k.

I remember some leakage between the hard top and the tub in my '94 (bought new, so it wasn't abused), but my '06 with a 6 year old soft top just weathered a Portland OR monsoon here this week and it is desert dry inside.

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^^^ thank u keith
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I had the same questions as you. I was going back to school and sold my BMW for the extra money. I wanted something reliable but still fun. I started looking around and the Wrangler was something I always wanted. Mine has been reliable and has never let me down. It's easy to maintain and they can go anywhere! Do it. You won't regret it, and if you ever have any issues the forum is here to help!
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Just be prepared to pay at the pump. I recently started biking to class because I just can't afford it.
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Just be prepared to pay at the pump. I recently started biking to class because I just can't afford it.
Yeah I didn't think about that. I ride my motorcycle mostly to school but I also live really close and we have public transit that I use frequently as well.
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Old 03-16-2012, 11:42 PM   #17
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I am in a little different world than some of you young guys. My Jeep is not only a third car, but our other two are company cars. So we boat instead. Lol

Anyway, someone asked about repairs on a TJ. One of the reasons that I bought mine is because the exhaust manifold, radiator, AC and heater core had all been replaced recently. These seem to be problematic eventually with Jeeps.

The other problem you have in my opinion with a Wrangler is that there are hard miles and easy miles. One that has been wheeled heavy is a lot different than one that has been a mall crawler. Everyone makes fun of mall crawlers until you want to buy one. I did not want to buy one that has been lifted and pounded unless i was to do the same.

Lastly is RUST. Look everywhere. Tap the frame. Lift up the carpet to check the floor boards. Poke around. Look for main seal leaks! Coolant leaks. Inspect the oil and the oil filler cap. Listen for lifters and exhaust leaks. You don't need a perfect Jeep but an offer with justification is always stronger.

Deducting $600 because of a rear main seal leak that you really don't care about or finding a little rust hidden on the floor boards is a great way to get money off. However, the next potential buyer may never care nor look.

It is always smart to do a compression test and a cooling system pressure test. I always check compression on anything I buy used but I make it as a contingency on the sale.
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Also you may find problems that the seller is not aware of. By law, a dealer must disclose any problems that they know of but a private seller does not. However, it is easy to support the fact that they are required and thus more likely to drop price.
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Old 03-17-2012, 04:22 AM   #19
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I have a 2.5 right now and love it.. even on the highway.. I came from a 2002 4.0 on 35's with a 6 1/2 lift.. wouldent even hold 60 on the highway.. mine right now will do 80 on 33's with no problem..
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I have a 2.5 right now and love it.. even on the highway.. I came from a 2002 4.0 on 35's with a 6 1/2 lift.. wouldent even hold 60 on the highway.. mine right now will do 80 on 33's with no problem..
Really...80 in a 2.5L easily? You're one of the few. Is your foot mashed to the floor what you call easy?

I had a 2.5L YJ on 31s. I could cruise at 65, but if a hill came it was game over. Don't even get my started about when I threw on 33s.

The 4.0L WILL hold 80 mph, although it does get squirrelly. I am assuming you didn't swap out the gears when you threw on 35s.
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Anybody claiming to run 80 in a 2.5 has a bad speedo or two cylinders hidden someplace.
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Old 03-18-2012, 06:18 PM   #22
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Well I know i could hit 80 on my 2.5 with 31 but it has to be on flat ground and it sure take a while to get there. But I'm good on going 65-70 on the freeway, no need to go fast in the jeep. If I want to go fast ill take my wife's new evolution and then get the speed I'm looking for
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Bahahaha.. I own a jeep so it will force me to go slow. Otherwise I'd be in jail or dead. Interesting fact. Most Hwy patrol in Kansas won't even turn around and chase you if you're going over the Ton. They might call a head on the radio, but most won't chase you. Bahahahaha!
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it is easy to support the fact that they are required and thus more likely to drop price.

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