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Old 04-30-2011, 01:49 PM   #1
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Removed back seat, no what?

Today I took my rear seat out, sold it because it was getting in my way for hauling groceries and off road gear. I took out the seat, and the brackets. I'm also planning on taking off my rear seatbelt, the ones that are bolted to the floor.
So questions:

1) Why is the second bolt from the floor bracket not coming off? It's loose enough I can turn it by hand but not actually coming off..

2) What tool do I need to remove the floor seat belt bolt?

3) The bolts from the brackets, should I put those back in the floor, or just keep them out? There will not be anything else in the back besides camping and other outdoor gear.

I need to know what to do by tomorrow.

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Old 04-30-2011, 02:04 PM   #2
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To remove the center seat belt, use T-45 bit. The brackets just unbolt, but take some effort. Good move on getting rid of that dead weight!

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Old 04-30-2011, 02:12 PM   #3
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no help on removing the brackets or belts, but ive been thinking of doing this exact same thing, taking it out and selling it, anyway you could post a pic of what it looks like without the seat?
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Old 04-30-2011, 02:19 PM   #4
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dmcg: Thank you for that info. Looks like it's off to Home Depot. I know the brackets unbolt, but I have one bolt that is not coming off the bracket. It's loose enough that I don't need my torq, but right now I don't know how to get it completely off. Would you recommend I take out the seatbelts as well? If so, what do I need for the shoulder seatbelt?

scgeek12: I can take the pic today. It's really not that hard to remove the backseat. I was able to get it done myself in less than 10 min. Really simple. But those stupid bolts are the hardest. I had to use liquid remover made specifically for stubborn nuts, bolts, and screws.
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Old 04-30-2011, 02:32 PM   #5
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Maybe the nut broke loose from the weld on the body on the underside of the tub, and it is just spinning???
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Old 04-30-2011, 02:44 PM   #6
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Is there anyway I can still take the bracket off? Otherwise I'm going to end up going to home depot and crawling under the jeep to take a look
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Old 04-30-2011, 03:26 PM   #7
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You could cut the head off the bolt and just let it drop through as long as the nut broke free be fine
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Tannerr, what would I use to cut the bolt off?
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Old 04-30-2011, 05:34 PM   #9
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Tannerr, what would I use to cut the bolt off?
metal cutoff wheel and a angle grinder

Norton 4-1/2 in. Depressed-Center Metal Grinding Wheel for Right-Angle Cut-Off Tools - 75910 at The Home Depot

or same thing but for a dremel if you got one
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Old 04-30-2011, 06:15 PM   #10
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Sounds like the bolt might be stripped or the nut broke off. Depending on which bolt, it could be a bitch to get to underneath cuz u might have the gas tank in the way.

As for what to do with the bolts, leave them out but save them. If u ever decide to mount something in the back, they could come in handy. Example I am building a storage box for the back of my jeep and those bolts are going to hold the Damn thing down.
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Keep the seatbelts on the roll bar, just in case They won't get in the way. They flap around on a windy day, but the all mighty zip tie will fix that
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Old 04-30-2011, 08:20 PM   #12
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I just used normal Torx bits to removed my brackets and the seatbelts...had zero issues besides a couple being stubborn

good move on getting rid of the seatbelts too, they flap in the wind with the top off if you havent already found that out...

i removed mine a couple weeks after getting it (had the jeep about 6 months now)

good call on removing it though...dead weight and also gives tons more room for hauling whatever and room for dogs (if you have them)
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Old 04-30-2011, 10:20 PM   #13
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OwenTJ, yep, have a dog that enjoys being in the back with the wind
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Old 04-30-2011, 10:58 PM   #14
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yep...my two love it without the seat in there. They were never in there when i had the seat but like i said, only had it for a couple weeks.

Then sold it to a local guy for 150 bucks.

I do remember snapping one bolt when i was taking the seat out but i that was it. Theres no special tool need to get the torx bits out. When you have it fully loose, just pull it out. I now remember one of mine being like how you described where it was out but wouldnt come out...i just pulled it hard and it came out.

Definitely do the seatbelts though!
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You could cut the head off the bolt and just let it drop through as long as the nut broke free be fine
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I live in philly and there is no way I'm leaving my top down and doors off anywhere around here! Maybe for small trips where I'm not moving far from my jeep I can't watch it with my eyes. Can't trust people no matter where you live! Unless you live in Canada lol

I live in Canada, I don't leave my baby topless and unattended. I don't like leaving her out of sight unless the hardtop is on. She's old and seen a lot of miles, But I couldn't bear it if someone did her harm. I think it would bring me to tears. So ya I think I have it better north of the 49th parallel, but still you can't help but to want to protect your baby.
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I pulled my rear seat out 6 months ago, then two weeks ago I put it back in. Today It comes back out, I need the room for those Costco/Sam's excursions. Seems like that darn rear seat is in my way either installed or sitting somewhere on the floor.
However, I would warn against selling the seat, if you go to sell or trade in your Jeep the dealer or new buyer will want it to make it a complete vehicle.
I have a few set of velcro wrap grab handles that I use to hold the shoulder belts tight to the roll bar so it doesn't flap in the wind with the top off.
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I live in philly and there is no way I'm leaving my top down and doors off anywhere around here! Maybe for small trips where I'm not moving far from my jeep I can't watch it with my eyes. Can't trust people no matter where you live! Unless you live in Canada lol

I live in Canada, I don't leave my baby topless and unattended. I don't like leaving her out of sight unless the hardtop is on. She's old and seen a lot of miles, But I couldn't bear it if someone did her harm. I think it would bring me to tears. So ya I think I have it better north of the 49th parallel, but still you can't help but to want to protect your baby.
I feel the same way about mine, but I'm just on little old PEI and there isn't a whole lot to worry about. Around here chances are if you don't see someone rooting through your Jeep, someone you know will
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I left the floor brackets in. I didnt feel like dealing with the rusty nuts under the tub maybe breaking loose. Everything else came out fine though. My spare sits back there now.
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jonrjen: Naw, my baby is mine . If I were to get another, mine would be my other off road vehicle. Because yes, I did think of that when I decided to sell it.

Here is a picture of the bolt that is not coming off, and I need it off. I tried the screwdriver underneath trick, and so far nothing. So I may need to cut it off, then get another. No biggie.

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