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Old 04-10-2013, 09:06 AM   #1
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I'm going to replace my stock speakers in my TJ in the next couple weeks once I've got the extra cash to buy some. I've ordered the adapters for the front to be able to add 5.25's and I've got the pods in the back I think they have 6.5's what are the best ones to go for? If it helps I don't have the factory HU and I'm in the process of adding the factory sub to mine it has a Polk 6.5" sub inside it. I'm planning on going with marine grade speakers since I run topless a lot of time and don't want them to get ruined by rain or dew.

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Most pods are 5.25 but you can easily fit 6.5 with very mild modification. I've been pretty happy with the Polk setup I'm running. Nothing is amp'd just yet but I am running an aftermarket head unit. I really need some low end in this tub. When I pull that trigger, I'm going to do it right.

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Since the vast majority of speakers including Polk's DB series are made using polypropylene or mylar speaker cones which is waterproof, you don't need marine grade speakers which are the same thing. Just make sure the speakers you choose are mylar or poly & you'll be good for wet weather.

Polk's DB series sound good and with their high >90 dB Sensitivity rating, work well with the standard head units without externa aux amplifiers. In other words, they don't take much power to make them sound good.
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Since the vast majority of speakers including Polk's DB series are made using polypropylene or mylar speaker cones which is waterproof, you don't need marine grade speakers which are the same thing. Just make sure the speakers you choose are mylar or poly & you'll be good for wet weather.

Polk's DB series sound good and with their high >90 dB Sensitivity rating, work well with the standard head units without externa aux amplifiers. In other words, they don't take much power to make them sound good.
Are the standard kickers good with just an aftermarket head and no amp?
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What is a standard kicker? If it doesn't have its own amp, it may not produce the hard hitting levels of bass that many younger Jeepers demand.
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Hey. I used to have a TJ and I put in an aftermarket sub and the sub with stock speakers sounded great. I would recommend just getting a small 10in sub with a 250 watt amp. This will give you the juice that you need.
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What is a standard kicker? If it doesn't have its own amp, it may not produce the hard hitting levels of bass that many younger Jeepers demand.
I was just talking soundbar and console speakers. Kicker brand.

You said Polk sounds good without an amp. I was asking if kicker brand speakers do
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Oh, gotcha. The key specification to look at is the speaker's Sensitivity rating. If it's not 90 dB or higher, it won't sound good without an auxilliary amplifier. All of Polk's DB and MM (way more $$$) series have a higher than 90 dB Sensitivity rating which makes them a good match for our Jeeps & unamped head units.
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I couldn't get 6.5's to fit in my pods ('05), could be the brackets with the ones I got but it just didn't look like it would hold well. I picked up infinity 529I's for the front and back with adapters in the front. Amazon.com: Infinity 529I 165W (Peak) 5-1/4 -Inch Two-Way Speakers (Pair): Car Electronics Very good speakers, they'll put out more midbass than the pods can handle.. Just make sure to set treble at -3db setting.

At minimum get an Alpine mini amp http://www.amazon.com/KTP-445U-Alpin...nnel+amplifier if you plan on using the stock sub enclosure. If not, gut your center console (still have use of the change holder) and put a 4 channel amp the like F30 alpine where the old amp/sub used to go. Amazon.com: MRX-F30 - Alpine 4-Channel 600 Watt Max Speaker Amplifier: Electronics Do whatever you want for subs& amp in the back in that case.
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Oh, gotcha. The key specification to look at is the speaker's Sensitivity rating. If it's not 90 dB or higher, it won't sound good without an auxilliary amplifier. All of Polk's DB and MM (way more $$$) series have a higher than 90 dB Sensitivity rating which makes them a good match for our Jeeps & unamped head units.
Very valuable info right there. Thanks
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So what do you have to mod on the pods to get 6.5's in them? Thanks for the other advice guys.
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While 6.5" Polks dropped right into my '97 TJ's Soundbar, I don't think they will fit the newer pods that started appearing in 2003. I'm not 100% sure but I seem to recall that 5.25" is all you can get into the Pods.
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So what do you have to mod on the pods to get 6.5's in them? Thanks for the other advice guys.

SOME may be able to fit, do some digging and make sure they have the pods in the newer jeeps. Most speakers come with the adapter, but the holes on the ones I got didn't line up or anything with the stock mounts. Also, the cage on the back of the speakers wouldn't fit. For reference, Amazon.com: Polk Audio DB651 6.5-Inch Coaxial Speakers: Car Electronics DID NOT WORK in my '05.
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Thanks again guys I've gotta run out to the shop today or tomorrow so I'll remove one of them and see what I can figure out on them.
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Infinity Kappa 62.7i 6-1/2" 2-way car speakers For 6-1/2" and 6-3/4" openings at Crutchfield.com These fit in my 03 with the supplied trim rings and cover. You just have to drill new holes in the plastic.
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I put polks db series in my jeep the 4x6s in the front took some modding but you said you bought brackets for the 5.25s up front which is a good idea. And I did the 6.5 in the sound bar and they fit right in with no mods in my 2000. I think it depends on the year of jeep just like Jerry said
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In my case, I put in 6 1/2" speakers in my '04 and they were larger than the originals so I had to drill new holes into the soundbar. The original grills did not fit so I had to drill new holes for those as well.

Writeup here: stock soundbar speaker size
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At minimum get an Alpine mini amp Amazon.com: KTP-445U - Alpine 4-Channel 45W RMS X 4 @ 4-Ohms Power Amplifier: Electronics if you plan on using the stock sub enclosure. If not, gut your center console (still have use of the change holder) and put a 4 channel amp the like F30 alpine where the old amp/sub used to go. Amazon.com: MRX-F30 - Alpine 4-Channel 600 Watt Max Speaker Amplifier: Electronics Do whatever you want for subs& amp in the back in that case.
I don't mean to hijack this thread, but I have been looking at this Alpine Mini amp. I have updated all the speakers to Polk DBs and the console Sub to a Kicker CVT. Did you install one yourself? Any gotchas?
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I don't mean to hijack this thread, but I have been looking at this Alpine Mini amp. I have updated all the speakers to Polk DBs and the console Sub to a Kicker CVT. Did you install one yourself? Any gotchas?

I put in a larger amp, but I wouldn't hesitate to run it if I wasn't looking to blow my ears out (which I am). That mini amp is the minimum I would run. Alpine makes quality products, there aren't really any gotchas, especially if you have an Alpine head unit since it plugs right in.

Do you still have the stock head unit? If so, you're really going to want to replace that because it's the weakest link of all. My suggestion is get the cheapest alpine head unit that has iPod hookup and sub out, amazon was having a sale, but I don't remember how long ago that was.
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Hey. I used to have a TJ and I put in an aftermarket sub and the sub with stock speakers sounded great. I would recommend just getting a small 10in sub with a 250 watt amp. This will give you the juice that you need.
decent bass, but it will drowned out the rest of the audio, i guess it depends what you are looking for, but that setup isnt for me

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Oh, gotcha. The key specification to look at is the speaker's Sensitivity rating. If it's not 90 dB or higher, it won't sound good without an auxilliary amplifier. All of Polk's DB and MM (way more $$$) series have a higher than 90 dB Sensitivity rating which makes them a good match for our Jeeps & unamped head units.
this, and the MM are more money but the sound quality is amazing at all volume levels

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While 6.5" Polks dropped right into my '97 TJ's Soundbar, I don't think they will fit the newer pods that started appearing in 2003. I'm not 100% sure but I seem to recall that 5.25" is all you can get into the Pods.
I have the polk MOMO's , predecessor to the MM but basically the same thing, in a 6.5". they fit the overhead pods in my 05 and my 03 with zero modifications
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Do you still have the stock head unit? If so, you're really going to want to replace that because it's the weakest link of all. My suggestion is get the cheapest alpine head unit that has iPod hookup and sub out, amazon was having a sale, but I don't remember how long ago that was.
No, I have so far replaced all factory components. Polk DB 5251s up front, Polk DB 651s in the Pods, Kicker CVT651 console sub and a Kenwood KIV-BT901 media player with all kinds of ways to connect. It all sounds good all the way up to a volume level of 28 out of 32 and then I run into a little distortion. To clean up that last bit of sound and to add power to the bass that really doesn't kick in until about level 20, I want to add an extra sub (thinking of the Pioneer 10" Shallow series mounted under the rear seat). the Kenwood has 2 pre-outs and not sure if this amp will plug right into that or not. I do know that there is an Alpine specific model (KTP-455A) and a more generic model (KTP-455U).

I got an email today from Crutchfield about Amps including this Alpine unit and also a Clarion Unit that is about $20 cheaper and is 50W RMSx4 vs 45W RMSx4. I still may go Alpine if I don't find a better, more efficient regular amp install. I have never installed a separate amp so not sure what I should be looking for.

Thanks for the detail you provided. That is very helpful. When I read the installation warning on Crutchfield's site, I was not sure if that was a big deal or not. Seems like it may not be so for $149 and extra power, without needing to run power to this amp, I may just go for it.

I found a bundle on Sonic Electronix including a Kenwood Amp (may plug right into my head unit with no mods) and the Pioneer woofer for $202, that is the only other thing I am considering at this point. 800W Pioneer Shallow Loaded Enclosure + Kenwood KAC-1502S Amp + Kit
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No, I have so far replaced all factory components. Polk DB 5251s up front, Polk DB 651s in the Pods, Kicker CVT651 console sub and a Kenwood KIV-BT901 media player with all kinds of ways to connect. It all sounds good all the way up to a volume level of 28 out of 32 and then I run into a little distortion. To clean up that last bit of sound and to add power to the bass that really doesn't kick in until about level 20, I want to add an extra sub (thinking of the Pioneer 10" Shallow series mounted under the rear seat). the Kenwood has 2 pre-outs and not sure if this amp will plug right into that or not. I do know that there is an Alpine specific model (KTP-455A) and a more generic model (KTP-455U).

I got an email today from Crutchfield about Amps including this Alpine unit and also a Clarion Unit that is about $20 cheaper and is 50W RMSx4 vs 45W RMSx4. I still may go Alpine if I don't find a better, more efficient regular amp install. I have never installed a separate amp so not sure what I should be looking for.

Thanks for the detail you provided. That is very helpful. When I read the installation warning on Crutchfield's site, I was not sure if that was a big deal or not. Seems like it may not be so for $149 and extra power, without needing to run power to this amp, I may just go for it.

I found a bundle on Sonic Electronix including a Kenwood Amp (may plug right into my head unit with no mods) and the Pioneer woofer for $202, that is the only other thing I am considering at this point. 800W Pioneer Shallow Loaded Enclosure + Kenwood KAC-1502S Amp + Kit
Do you like that console sub? I've upgraded my system now except for the sound bar ones and the console sub that came from the factory. When I'm.listening to some classic rock or something smooth it sounds great even at near max volume with doors off and top down. But anything bassy sends the factory sub to hell and makes it sound like shit.

I don't want to mount a big sub anywhere cause I let it rain in the back whenever we have a shower so I was thinking to just get the best sub I could find that fits in the console spot.

Are you running an amp to it?
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I put polks db series in my jeep the 4x6s in the front took some modding but you said you bought brackets for the 5.25s up front which is a good idea. And I did the 6.5 in the sound bar and they fit right in with no mods in my 2000. I think it depends on the year of jeep just like Jerry said
I just moved my MTX 5.25s from the pods in my 05 to the dash and installed Kenwood 1694 6.5" in the rear. The screw holes matched up perfect but the speakers wouldn't fit into the hole in the pod, so I surface mounted them using drywall screws, the only longer ones I had handy. The Kenwood grills fit fine over the speakers and sealed up nice against the bottom of the pod.

I can grab pics if anyone wants to see how it looks.
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Last fall, I replaced the speakers in my 2003 with a soft top with the Polk Audio units that everyone else has mentioned. I also installed a 10" sub in a downward firing box that I made to hide behind the back seat. Sounded pretty good but the bass could overpower a bit. More noticable with top off/down. I got the new Clarion Mobile Electronics XC1410 D-Class 4-Channel Amplifier from Amazon and installed it under the airbag shield in the overhead of my glovebox cavity. It is something like $110. I think it is 50 watts per channel and it really woke up the other speakers. Big difference for not much $$ and it doesn't take up much space. It's about the size of a dollar bill and about 1.5" high.
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Quick question about the install. I put the Polk DB's up front and some Kickers in the soundbar. I bought the adapter for the fronts from best Buy ($17) and after installing it all and thinking about it, I have a speaker mounted to a piece of metal mounted to another piece of metal. Would it cause vibes that would/could distort clear sound? I'm wondering if anyone has put something like foam tape or double-sided tape (something to dampen/absorb) in-between the speaker and plate? Or would that take away from the sound. Obviously I'm not an audiophile, just want the most out of it.

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Quick question about the install. I put the Polk DB's up front and some Kickers in the soundbar. I bought the adapter for the fronts from best Buy ($17) and after installing it all and thinking about it, I have a speaker mounted to a piece of metal mounted to another piece of metal. Would it cause vibes that would/could distort clear sound? I'm wondering if anyone has put something like foam tape or double-sided tape (something to dampen/absorb) in-between the speaker and plate? Or would that take away from the sound. Obviously I'm not an audiophile, just want the most out of it.

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as long as its tight you should be fine. i've never noticed any issues and i'm pumping 125w per channel rms. my brackets are plastic, but you shouldnt have any issues with metal
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That adapter plate is a popular product and so far, I've never seen anyone say they had any sort of vibration problem from it. Just make sure its mounting hardware is tight & it should be fine.
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Ok, thanks. I haven't noticed anything either, just wanted to make sure. As always, LOVE this forum!

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