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Old 07-14-2008, 12:28 PM   #1
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Rhino liner/ line X do it yourself..?

just wondering if anyone has applied any of these to their vehicles themselves? I got quoted at $500 for the interior of my jeep for both rhino and line x, and would have to take the whole interior apart myself....too expensive for me for an interior liner. So i was wondering if anyone can give some advice for a DIY job...best places to get the stuff etc. Much appreciated thanks.

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Neither of those two coating manufacturers sell to anyone but authorized dealers. You can buy Herculiner or Duraguard nearly anywhere and spray it yourself but that stuff is essentially nothing more than paint with ground up rubber particles added. Being as both of those are paint-based, they give a much thinner coating. Rhino, LineX, TurboLiner, etc. are polyurea or polyurethane products that are MUCH thicker and far tougher so they do cost a lot more. LineX/RhinoLiner and Duraguard/Herculiner are like apples and oranges... similar in purpose but very different.

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But is it worth paying $500 for rhino liner when you can get the Herculiner kit for around $100? I plan on doing just the interior so it would take less of a beating most likely than if it were on the outside...and cant you apply like 3 or 4 coats?
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Actually, most people are very happy with their Herculiner and Duraliner installations. I was really more just pointing out the differences in those products and Rhino or LineX as the reason Rhino and LineX costs so much more. Heck one of these days I'll probably spray my TJ's interior with Herculiner or Duraliner.
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Hate to the post but I have heard that, even after dryig, these liners rub off on everthing Your clothes bags what eve you put in the truck, is this true?
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Hate to the post but I have heard that, even after dryig, these liners rub off on everthing Your clothes bags what eve you put in the truck, is this true?
Maybe that happens with some brands (but I personally haven't heard of that) but definitely not the brands being discussed in this thread.
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I've done a bit of reading on it and the only thing is that they get semi 'tacky' in the hot sun. Nothing about the stuff rubbing off though.
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Maybe that happens with some brands (but I personally haven't heard of that) but definitely not the brands being discussed in this thread.
Jerry, You mentioned Duraliner before, is that something different from Durabak? Not trying to be smart, just wondering.

I have a utility trailer done in 2 colors of Durabak and plan on doing the inside of the tub of my TJ next month. So far, the stuff on the trailer wears like iron..
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Jerry, You mentioned Duraliner before, is that something different from Durabak?
Whoops you're right, I meant Durabak. I can never remember it's Durabak for some reason... likely just Partzheimers.
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I've got a buddy who rhino'ed the inside of his tub. Just as long as you take your time and do proper prep work it should work out great. He's had it in for a couple of years now and there hasn't been any sign of it wearing out!
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ill be making a project log thread within the month on doing this. i planned on usuing herculiner but they do not make a "smooth" texture so im going on the hunt for something else. so far durabak seems to have high remarks for that catagory.
i think the rough texture would probably look better in the end but i have dogs that ride often, and iv takin that into consideration.
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Hate to the post but I have heard that, even after dryig, these liners rub off on everthing Your clothes bags what eve you put in the truck, is this true?
I haven't noticed it, and I even used the cheap Duplicolor stuff. With enough coats its just as tough and still looks good too.
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I have a gallon of Herculiner for this purpose as a winter project because I don't want to have the jeep down this summer(to much topless fun) but I Herculined the bed on my S-10 and it does hold up great with no peeling and NO coming off on cloths.The only place my s-10 bed was chipped at all after a year was were I loaded(threw) some concrete blocks in it.And that was just a couple small spots the size of a pencil eraser.And yes you have to do the labor intense prep work for the product to do its best.I also have something I got a few weeks ago called Gator Guard and it is an epoxy and Urethane based product but I know very little about it as far as how well it holds up.It is comparable in price as the Herculiner but as stated this is a urethane base were the herculiner is an acrylic base.Her is a website for it. www.dominionsureseal.com
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ive got my interior stripped and the bed cleaned. I rough sanded it and applied a acid etching primer. Tomarow i will rough sand the primer and finish masking the rest of the jeep off. The primer wasnt a necessity but i figured it would about guarantee good adheasion. I ordered the raptor bed liner. Its a spray on urethene based product. Tell you what its a lot of work and it probably cost around 200 dollars once you buy the liner. some solvent to clean with, rubber gloves, scotch pads and in my case primer. If a guy could just strip his interior and the body shop would take care of all the prep work 500 dollars aint bad and i doubt id of bothered with all of this work to save 300 bucks.
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If you do a search, I have made a few threads about rhino lining. When I worked at a restoration shop, we did a lot of rhino linings to help pay the shop bills while we did long restorations.

Anyway, question number 1, will it rub off on your clothes. Well, when I had my old 2500, I had the bed done with rhino liner. After about 4 days, I took a nap in the bed when it was about 85 degrees outside, and sunny. Liner was hot as heck, still kinda tacky from just being done, but did not rub off on my clothes any.

Is it worth it? I think so. Usually I tell people to go with line X if they plan on doing a bed or something, and use it a lot for mulch etc. and rhino liner if they just want to keep their bed nice and keep things from moving around. For a Jeep, I would recommend rhino liner. Line-x looks cleaner (depending who sprays the liner, I have seen some rhino lining places do a REALLY good job), and is a little more resistant to getting tore up by sharp objects. In other words, if you take an axe and hit line x and rhino liner at an angle, the line x is more likely to not chip out. This is because the rhino liner is usually much thicker (again, depends if the shop does it right or not), and rhino liner is more "rubbery" than line x. Think of rhino liner like a harder textured rubber husky liner, and line x like a super strong textured paint. Obviously this isn't exactly how they are, but its the best way to describe it. The rhino liner is a littler bit harder to clean when it gets stained with dirt, but its very doable. The reason I recomened it for the Jeep, is because the more grippy texture will be much nicer as a "carpet" than line X, and will do a better job at keeping things still on the floor. Rhino liner is also now offering a UV protectant (the sun will fade all liners, but rhino liners fade faster than line x), as well as a cheap "shampoo" that will bring the color back to the liner. Many people don't know this, but rhino liners are estimated in two ways. Black liner the cheapest, than you can a standard get Grey, Blue, Red, or Yellow for a little bit more, and than you can get custom colors for a larger price. Line-x is the same way I believe. If you are going to have your Jeep lined with either, take EVERYTHING out of the Jeep that you can, except the driver seat and the dash. Tape up what you can, as well as you can, and just ask them to clean up the tape before they spray it. That will save you a lot of money. By everything, I mean seat belts, the bracket bolts, center console, everything you don't need to drive the Jeep. Heck, if it was me, I would take the driver seat, and seat belt out when I got there, and gave them a milk box (they are used to this, trust me).
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I haven't noticed it, and I even used the cheap Duplicolor stuff. With enough coats its just as tough and still looks good too.

Not to sound or come off as arguementative, but I used FIVE coats of Duplicolor brand liner in the bed of my Ford Ranger last fall, and all I can say to anyone thinking of using this product is, "DONT WAST YOUR MONEY"! As an ex painter by trade, I prepped the surface as required in the instructions and applied five coats, to build up some thickness to obtain a decent amount of tensile strength. Within 60 days of using my truck bed for various light hauling tasks, the material began to chip and peel.
I tried this product on a recommendation by my local NAPA auto parts store who just started carrying it. After I showed them my truck bed, they called me the next day and explained that their regional distributor and given them the wrong advice as to what its intended use was.
After talking to a few companies including Line-X, they explained that in order to get a thick coating to dry extremely hard, the material must be a two part epoxy (base and catalyst), which makes sense. The duplicolor is just an oil based product with a hot solvent for a quick evaporation dry, not a chemical reaction (cooking) dry.
I went with the Duplicolor because it was only 70.00 for a gallon and Herculiner was almost double that. Now, I have 210.00 worth of peeling product to deal with. Just my two cents.
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what about vinyl here is a link. i have it stock in my 86 f150 and it cleans up great, i think i would try it and it's cheaper
http://www.jeep4x4center.com/jeep-ca...looring-tj.htm
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I purchased a product called liner-x from ebay.It is a 2 part epoxy similar to line-x or rhino liner. came with free spray gun...sprays like a shotgun but a brush does wonders as well. It was much cheaper than paying line-x and almost as good. I should have prepped a little better im sure, but it has not chipped at all. I purchased 2 gallons to ensure I had enough and finished the tub with less than one gallon and have used the stuff on many other items. try it!!
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I think it's all about the prep work...
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Do you have a link to liner-x's ad on ebay juspimpin? I looked and couldn't find it.
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Do you have a link to liner-x's ad on ebay juspimpin? I looked and couldn't find it.
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you can buy Herculiner on ebay
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you can buy Herculiner on ebay
I can buy Herculiner locally too, what I would like to see is that 2-part epoxy spray juspimpin is talking about. But even so, neither Line-X nor Rhinoliner use a 2-part epoxy, both of those are urethane based... polyurea and polyurethane.
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Awesome, thank you for finding that link! I will go with that stuff sometime this summer, it looks like a pretty good way to go.
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If you got a quote of 500$ to spray the entire tub, JUMP on it, I paid twice that, (linex) and L O V E it.

Granted we have no back seat, (childfree by choice whoohoo!) so it is totally covered, and I had them also take off my warn rear bumper and spray that black. but here (in the northeast anyway) getting anything for under a grand is a deal.

I had them match as best they could the interior color, they brought it up about 1" on the roll bars, I had the door threshold done so I need no protective caps, and the tailgate door inside and the exterior part below the tire above the bumper.
I should have had the exterior part done in black to match the bumper, but it doesn't look bad..
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Check out these links. A couple guys over at JF have done the U-Pol raptor liners. Looks about as good as anything you can find as far as DIY liners. This is the product I'll use when It comes time to line the tub. You can even have it color matched to your vehicle

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I went with herculiner and im glad i did it....was only $100 and the stuff seems as solid as a rock with only one layer on...i dont see this stuff coming off for a long time with 2+ layers. Looks real good too, i almost want to do my whole exterior. Prep wasnt that bad took prob 2 hrs to prep with the right tools....wear gloves though for sure...i got it all over my hands and its been nearly a week and a half since and its still on there.
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Yes, that is the stuff I purchased. One gallon was more than enough for me but I bought 2 anyway. Great stuff. The gun is decent but tough to pinpoint. I used a brush in many places and you cannot tell where was brushed or sprayed. Do not brush as you were painting, more like dabbing or stabbing. I leaves it textured just like spraying. The brush works great for areas you sprayed too much, areas where it is running or dripping or areas too tough to spray like behind roll bars or under the dash. I also did the pedals.

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