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Old 10-21-2011, 06:03 PM   #31
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The rock sliders that I have on my jeep I bought off of Ebay, the company is Eautogrills. They look like the smittybuilt XRC stuff. They say they are 1/8" thick but they measure out just slightly thicker than 3/16"..So its actually 3/16" with a coating on it. I was kind of leary about buying them, but at $220, wasn't going to be out much and the final product was a lot better than I originally thought.

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The rock sliders that I have on my jeep I bought off of Ebay, the company is Eautogrills. They look like the smittybuilt XRC stuff. They say they are 1/8" thick but they measure out just slightly thicker than 3/16"..So its actually 3/16" with a coating on it. I was kind of leary about buying them, but at $220, wasn't going to be out much and the final product was a lot better than I originally thought.

i googled them and didnt find them is there anyway you could link us to the site?

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Arb all the way. One of the best, and look the best to me. The step isn't very use full if you have a lift but oh we'll
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i googled them and didnt find them is there anyway you could link us to the site?
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The rock sliders that I have on my jeep I bought off of Ebay, the company is Eautogrills. They look like the smittybuilt XRC stuff. They say they are 1/8" thick but they measure out just slightly thicker than 3/16"..So its actually 3/16" with a coating on it. I was kind of leary about buying them, but at $220, wasn't going to be out much and the final product was a lot better than I originally thought.
Those mount to the body mounts right?
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I have the Detours, which mount to the frame. They are heavy duty and double as a step.
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i have the detours, which mount to the frame. They are heavy duty and double as a step.
$309.00

They do however look extremely tough.
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Not bad at all. Do these mount to the body mounts or just to the body itself?
They mount to the bottom of the tub, as do all similar sliders. Not the sheet metal, mind you, but the thicker metal on the tub bottom.
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Body armour makes a nice set for around that price and i have put them on the rocks and used my high lift on them, and they look good but thats just me
I've been looking at the Body Armor ones.....did you get these? TJ-4121 - Body Armor Rockcrawler Side Guards for 97-06 Jeep« Wrangler TJ - Quadratec

The price is right ($204 + shipping), plus I'm looking for armor that doesn't bolt to the body. I have a Sahara and plan on keeping my rocker panel plastic pieces on, so I'm looking for protection that bolts only to the body mounts.
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Those mount to the body mounts right?
Yeah, I just took a few new pics to show exactly how they mount..



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Its your money, so whatver your budget and personal preferences are there is a lot out there to suit your needs, I'll throw one more in there to consider -

brookscustomconcepts.com you can get a very tough very well made set of step sliders for about $110, I have had mine on trees, rocks, even hit by a car (it didnt drive away, I spray painted the 1/2" spot the paint scraped) and you can see they still look like they did new, they come bare metal so you dont have to worry about scraping anything with them, since thats what they are for

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He doesnt want tub mounted.

You wont find any that mounts to tge body mounts without it mounting to the tub. If you dont wanna lose your side stuff, you'll have to go with lower clearance rails that mount to the frame and have a possibility of coming up and denting into your jeep body.
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He doesnt want tub mounted.

You wont find any that mounts to tge body mounts without it mounting to the tub. If you dont wanna lose your side stuff, you'll have to go with lower clearance rails that mount to the frame and have a possibility of coming up and denting into your jeep body.
That guy with the Sahara doesn't want tub mounts. I am okay with tub mounts if and only if they tie into the body mounts as well.
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Its your money, so whatver your budget and personal preferences are there is a lot out there to suit your needs, I'll throw one more in there to consider -

brookscustomconcepts.com you can get a very tough very well made set of step sliders for about $110, I have had mine on trees, rocks, even hit by a car (it didnt drive away, I spray painted the 1/2" spot the paint scraped) and you can see they still look like they did new, they come bare metal so you dont have to worry about scraping anything with them, since thats what they are for
Do these tie into the body mounts as well? The price is definitely right...
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I wouldn't get too hung up on whether the slider mounts to the frame. The ones that mount to the tub are a lot stronger and provide better protection. If you plan on using them, get 3/16" tub mounted sliders and if possible, the kind that also includes internal bracing. I just put my Rokmen's on today and finished up with a headlamp or I'd post some pictures. They are sturdy for sure!

I know I could have gotten some cheaper priced ones out there but I read everywhere about how good the welds were on Rokmen stuff so I went with them. The welds are flawless! When I get engine skids, welds won't be as important to me so I'm going to go to a local fabricator for those.
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You know what, I guess you're right. If I ever put my jeep in a situation that damage hinges on whether or not the sliders are frame or tub mounted, I'm sure ill have other things to worry about. I'm going to reconsider the tub mounted suggestions, possibly the BBC ones as they look a lot like PSC ones.
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After doing some more reading I'm not so set on body mount mounted sliders anymore and think I'd be okay with tub mounted because I've read that you need to trim the body mounts themselves 3/16" and they can bend and give less clearance.

So right now at the top of my list are the AtoZFab ones with the tubular step (LINK). They seem like they offer a lot of protection and seem really solid. However, they are pretty pricey, and I don't even know how much shipping is yet. Looks like if I want these I need to save a bit more. How do these mount underneath? It looks like there are holes for something under there. How would I paint these coming into winter?

Or here is the discount option LINK

Realistically, what is the $200 difference between the two? Sliders don't seem to terribly difficult to make so I feel like they would be hard to screw up. Or should I try to find someone local that does fab work?
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Yeah, I just took a few new pics to show exactly how they mount..
Did you trim your body mounts to install these?
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After doing some more reading I'm not so set on body mount mounted sliders anymore and think I'd be okay with tub mounted because I've read that you need to trim the body mounts themselves 3/16" and they can bend and give less clearance.

So right now at the top of my list are the AtoZFab ones with the tubular step (LINK). They seem like they offer a lot of protection and seem really solid. However, they are pretty pricey, and I don't even know how much shipping is yet. Looks like if I want these I need to save a bit more. How do these mount underneath? It looks like there are holes for something under there. How would I paint these coming into winter?

Or here is the discount option LINK

Realistically, what is the $200 difference between the two? Sliders don't seem to terribly difficult to make so I feel like they would be hard to screw up. Or should I try to find someone local that does fab work?
I see a big difference between the two. The discount version doesn't provide squat for protection underneath. There's only a welded on tab that goes under for mounting not to mention they aren't counter-sunk bolts. The first time that tab has a rock dragged acrossed it there's gonna be damage. Also, the rock already got dragged up under the tub for a while before hitting the tab. I'm pretty sure AtoZ goes under a lot more to where the bolts are mounted and they are counter-sunk/flush mount.

Mine mounted by drilling 5 3/8" holes up into the tub (double walled sheet metal) and putting the flush mount bolt up through it with a grade 8 plate support, grade 8 washer and lock nut (not grade 8 yet but will be).

However, the sides are done first with the same except the hardware it not grade 8 (not needed on the sides). For wheel well to wheel well, there's I think 7 3/8" holes to be drilled and one nutsert hole used from the flares. I'm a little fat dude that was jumping up and down on mine "testing" both the rocker and suspension once it was put on. I'm not a rock, but it's not going anywhere. My biggest problem is that I painted the sliders but not the hardware so now I have shine on my Pig again I'll bedline them when I get around to it
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I see a big difference between the two. The discount version doesn't provide squat for protection underneath. There's only a welded on tab that goes under for mounting not to mention they aren't counter-sunk bolts. The first time that tab has a rock dragged acrossed it there's gonna be damage. Also, the rock already got dragged up under the tub for a while before hitting the tab. I'm pretty sure AtoZ goes under a lot more to where the bolts are mounted and they are counter-sunk/flush mount.

Mine mounted by drilling 5 3/8" holes up into the tub (double walled sheet metal) and putting the flush mount bolt up through it with a grade 8 plate support, grade 8 washer and lock nut (not grade 8 yet but will be).

However, the sides are done first with the same except the hardware it not grade 8 (not needed on the sides). For wheel well to wheel well, there's I think 7 3/8" holes to be drilled and one nutsert hole used from the flares. I'm a little fat dude that was jumping up and down on mine "testing" both the rocker and suspension once it was put on. I'm not a rock, but it's not going anywhere. My biggest problem is that I painted the sliders but not the hardware so now I have shine on my Pig again I'll bedline them when I get around to it
Didn't even notice that thanks for pointing that out. Do you have the AtoZ fab sliders? I also noticed that they come with stainless steel hardware that hopefully won't rust within a week like regular steel would.

I'll definitely be using these as steps so that's good to hear they hold up.

What did you use to paint them? Rattle can? As were approaching winter I'm not sure if ill be able to paint them or not because of the temp.
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I got the Rokmen Mercenary sliders. Grade 8 is rust proof and what wasn't grade 8 was stainless.

They came raw steel so I 3M padded them and cleaned them up with Dawn dish detergent and acetone. Then I rattle canned primer (2 cans) and Rustoleum bedliner (overkilled 4 cans ).
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I am still gona push those keystone ones on you

I can't wait to get mine fabbed up. I am probably getting my tubes from AtoZ and do like their sliders, just too pricey for me.

If money was no option PSC would be my pick.
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Those keystone ones are nice but don't seem to protect underneath as much and don't come up as high on the body. I need to see better pictures of them, the pictures on the site suck lol.
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lol I know, the site is a bit ghetto. The thing is, up the side you don't really need that much protection. i think they are 6 inch bent in the middle, so they cover 3 up and 3 under. If your taking a direct hit to the side above 3 inches your into some mad stuff man... haha. and 3 inches underneath is enough, because after that there is only a few inches gap til the level of the frame. So they dont get much wider. Heck look at the PSC ones for the TJ, half of the dang rocker is like 1 inch...

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thats the one think I like about the AtoZ, they cover like 6 inches both ways so you know they are coverin it all.
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Did you trim your body mounts to install these?
Nope, I loosened the four rear body mounts, jacked the tub up, slid the mount in and clamped it all in place, drilled holes, put the tub bolts in and tightened the body mounts back down..not difficult, just takes some time.

I will also say that the tube isn't a good step if you are lifted. i do like the look of the tube though.
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I also like the B.C.C. Sliders. He's a vendor here and on ebay.

Jeep Wrangler TJ LJ 97-06 HD ROCK RAILS rocker guards | eBay

He has fast shipping and the instructions are great. He answered all my questions before and after I bought his sliders. He thoughtfully fabricated he sliders so they mount on the bottom rails and through the tub. If you have other ideas on sliders he can also create them to your liking.



mine are the non-tube ones. I got them to my door for $135. Oh yeah and they are a good jacking point too
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i have been talking to the guy at AtoZ about a bumper and getting just what i want they are a good company. good guys.

does anyone know BCC member name?

i like the smitybilt ones too. i also the kinda guy that gets everything the same brand. so if i get a AtoZ bumper ill get everything else AtoZ if i get smitybilt id get the rest smitybilt and if i get BCC ill get everything BCC
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I have the Detours, which mount to the frame. They are heavy duty and double as a step.
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