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Old 11-30-2012, 06:22 PM   #1
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Roll Bar ?'s

I was wondering if the roll bar out of a CJ, the sport style roll bar, would bolt into my TJ?

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Old 11-30-2012, 07:15 PM   #2
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bump I wanna know too. im not terribly happy with the way the full cage style roll bars look. I miss my old style yj

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Old 11-30-2012, 07:17 PM   #3
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I've wondered that as well. I would like the sport style bar from a YJ on my TJ also!!!
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Old 11-30-2012, 07:26 PM   #4
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I love the look of the sport bar. Man i miss my CJ7
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Old 11-30-2012, 07:36 PM   #5
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Any body with a YJ with a sport bar that can take some measurements ??
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Old 11-30-2012, 07:44 PM   #6
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Why would you want to put yourself in danger by putting a crappier rollcage? The stock TJ cage kinda sucks, but at least it's better than the old CJ style ones. Most people go the other way and add more reinforcement/ triangulation. I honestly doubt it's a bolt in deal if you really wanted to do it.

You would also have to make tab for your soft top as the CJ one's probably wouldn't work, and also add seat belt bracket's because if i remember right CJ's only had lap belts.

Now that I think about it rollbars on the CJ's didn't attach to the windshield like our TJ's do, so you couldn't run a windshield.
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Old 11-30-2012, 07:52 PM   #7
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Yjs had 3 point belts and no windshield tie ins.
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Old 11-30-2012, 07:56 PM   #8
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You don't need the windshield tie-ins, many people run aftermarket cages without them and only rely on the bolts on the sides of the hinges. They'll do the job perfectly fine.
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Why would you want to put yourself in danger by putting a crappier rollcage? The stock TJ cage kinda sucks, but at least it's better than the old CJ style ones. Most people go the other way and add more reinforcement/ triangulation. I honestly doubt it's a bolt in deal if you really wanted to do it.

You would also have to make tab for your soft top as the CJ one's probably wouldn't work, and also add seat belt bracket's because if i remember right CJ's only had lap belts.

Now that I think about it rollbars on the CJ's didn't attach to the windshield like our TJ's do, so you couldn't run a windshield.
how about cuz it looks better, I can put lap belts in, and half the time I don't have a back seat in anyways. the old sport bar did just fine to protect the driver and passenger. and well, enough people survived back then to raise my generation, so its gotta be safe enough.
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Old 11-30-2012, 07:59 PM   #10
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I agree!! If I had acess to a welder is build one But if the YJ one bolted in that would be sweet!
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Old 11-30-2012, 08:02 PM   #11
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how about cuz it looks better, i can put lap belts in, and half the time i don't have a back seat in anyways. The old sport bar did just fine to protect the driver and passenger. And well, enough people survived back then to raise my generation, so its gotta be safe enough.
I loled. Ok whatever you want to do man.
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Old 11-30-2012, 08:11 PM   #12
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I agree!! If I had acess to a welder is build one But if the YJ one bolted in that would be sweet!
I'll start looking into whether they'll allow you to legally sell one. dawn safety and health people have their teeth into everything. if it is, maybe ill make a conversion kit to sell commercially.
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I'll start looking into whether they'll allow you to legally sell one. dawn safety and health people have their teeth into everything. if it is, maybe ill make a conversion kit to sell commercially.
You make a conversion, let me know!! Do i get a discount for giving you the idea lol?
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Old 11-30-2012, 08:15 PM   #14
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we can discuss this IF I am able to make and market one.
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Old 11-30-2012, 08:24 PM   #15
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I have a legitimate question for you, How do you plan to install the door surrounds with no header bar to attach them to?
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Old 11-30-2012, 08:34 PM   #16
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my 89 yj had header bars that went from the sport bar to the windshield. besides, im a fabricator, I do what I want.
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Old 11-30-2012, 08:39 PM   #17
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you can make a custom cage that looks better/ actually would serve a purpose, people that convert to half cabs often do it. Why go through the work of putting more dangerous cage instead of building a legit one? Thats like putting chrome tube bumpers on a jeep looks like crap and functions like crap...

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my 89 yj had header bars that went from the sport bar to the windshield. besides, im a fabricator, I do what I want.
OP said CJ style rollbar, so that's what I figured you were "fabricating".
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Im not saying what id make would be exactly like a tj or yj roll bar, just look like one, what you've got in your picks nice, but it could look more classic if you ask me.
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Late cj early yj roll cages will not bolt right up.
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Late cj early yj roll cages will not bolt right up.
thank you, to the welding shop!
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Old 11-30-2012, 08:45 PM   #22
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thank you, to the welding shop!
I hope you don't plan on selling these like you said.
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Old 11-30-2012, 08:46 PM   #23
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I hope you don't plan on selling these like you said.
maybe, if you don't like it don't buy one stop trolling man.
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maybe, if you don't like it don't buy one stop trolling man.
I'm not trolling, I'm trying to stop clueless people from being killed by your stupidity. To be honest, you don't sound like you know what you are doing.You even said I don't care if it's safe or not. If someone gets hurt using one of your cages, then you are screwed.

Get off your high horse and quit being so ignorant.
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thank you, to the welding shop!
You may not have to weld, you may be able to just drill some new holes in the tub.
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Old 11-30-2012, 08:56 PM   #26
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I'd buy one. I dont wheel hard enough to roll my jeep. And I drive like an old lady so I deff won't roll it on the street! As long as it bolts in and the seat belts bolt up I'll be good!!!
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Old 11-30-2012, 08:58 PM   #27
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how about cuz it looks better, I can put lap belts in, and half the time I don't have a back seat in anyways. the old sport bar did just fine to protect the driver and passenger. and well, enough people survived back then to raise my generation, so its gotta be safe enough.
thats what i said. not that i don't care if its safe or not. just that its good enough for me. IF I were to sell a roll bar that I made it would be AT LEAST as strong, of not stronger than the factory set up. dude, its only an idea at this point. don't be so negative. it can be done. besides, if people want to remove their roll bar all together are you gonna tell them no? its not your jeep. let the rest of us do what we want. I myself am going to look into building a cj-yj style sport bar that fits a tj. if it wont work then at least I tried.
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If you dont like the idea, move to another thread. Its just an idea!
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thats what i said. not that i don't care if its safe or not. just that its good enough for me. IF I were to sell a roll bar that I made it would be AT LEAST as strong, of not stronger than the factory set up. dude, its only an idea at this point. don't be so negative. it can be done. besides, if people want to remove their roll bar all together are you gonna tell them no? its not your jeep. let the rest of us do what we want. I myself am going to look into building a cj-yj style sport bar that fits a tj. if it wont work then at least I tried.
You clearly don't get it. There is no way in hell you are going to make a CJ style cage (which is what this thread was about) with no windshield header bars stronger than a factory TJ cage.

Do you understand what liability is? If people go take off their own cage then that it their problem. There is no one they can sue or blame but themselves. If you market shitty roll cages and build them for people that is a huge liability. You can go build your own cage which is fine, but don't offer a service to make other peoples cages weaker. That is just plain stupid. Believe it or not, I'm actually being a nice guy and giving you VERY good advice here.

I keep forgetting that everyone on this forum is all about looks and not functionality....
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You clearly don't get it. There is no way in hell you are going to make a CJ style cage (which is what this thread was about) with no windshield header bars stronger than a factory TJ cage.

Do you understand what liability is? If people go take off their own cage then that it their problem. There is no one they can sue or blame but themselves. If you market shitty roll cages and build them for people that is a huge liability. You can go build your own cage which is fine, but don't offer a service to make other peoples cages weaker. That is just plain stupid. Believe it or not, I'm actually being a nice guy and giving you VERY good advice here.
Looks like the roll cage police are here…

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