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Old 03-13-2014, 10:21 PM   #1
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Exclamation Rotten frame Help!!! TJ

sooo my 99 tj is in great shape other than the fact if you look underneath your face goes
my frame has rotted almost completely out where the crossmember holds up the transfer case. Right now there are only two bolts (on the passenger side) holding up my crossmember and i am worried that if i continue to drive both my transfer case and cross member will drop and ill have a bigg problem on my hands i was thinking of patching it up then selling it or trading it or even parting it out
PLEASE HELP its my first jeep and i plan to have many more!

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Old 03-13-2014, 10:29 PM   #2
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sooo my 99 tj is in great shape other than the fact if you look underneath your face goes my frame has rotted almost completely out where the crossmember holds up the transfer case. Right now there are only two bolts (on the passenger side) holding up my crossmember and i am worried that if i continue to drive both my transfer case and cross member will drop and ill have a bigg problem on my hands i was thinking of patching it up then selling it or trading it or even parting it out PLEASE HELP its my first jeep and i plan to have many more!
Sell it

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Old 03-13-2014, 10:59 PM   #3
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save her, she needs help. FIX!
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Old 03-13-2014, 11:36 PM   #4
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That's how I got my TJ. The original owner drove it for14 years and thought the frame was beyond repair. He got rid of it and bought a new JK. The shop he sold it to and figured they would part it out instead did a killer job on the full frame repair and I bought it. He still says had he known it was fixable he would've kept it instead of buying a new one.
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Old 03-13-2014, 11:39 PM   #5
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I think a frame swap is more straight forward, it may be more "work" but its more straight forward.
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Old 03-14-2014, 05:47 AM   #6
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Go to the tech forum, there's a guy doing a frame repair now. Looks like he's doing a nice job. I say repair
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Old 03-14-2014, 02:29 PM   #7
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It fell off today
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Old 03-14-2014, 04:07 PM   #8
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Mine was rusting through where the skid plate bolts to the frame, I installed safe t cap from auto rust technicians and it's good as new. Solid product, check them out.

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Old 03-14-2014, 05:06 PM   #9
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I'm sorry, call it my OCD, but I patched frame is never as good as new. I wouldn't want a pieced back together frame no matter how well done it is. If it were my jeep I'd find a solid used frame and have it refinished and rust-proofed and slapped under there.
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Old 03-14-2014, 07:45 PM   #10
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I'm also running the SafeT Cap TC sections on my 98. Excellent product!
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Old 03-15-2014, 01:47 AM   #11
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I'm also running the SafeT Cap TC sections on my 98. Excellent product!
How much are they and do you have to remove the tub completely from the Fran in order to replace the bad sections?
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in response to the patched frame never being as good as new, I BEG to differ. I rebuilt my frame using 3/16 steel from front to back. It is much stronger than it ever was stock... much. thank you.
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in response to the patched frame never being as good as new, I BEG to differ. I rebuilt my frame using 3/16 steel from front to back. It is much stronger than it ever was stock... much. thank you.
You can beg all you want but its just not true. I can weld a bunch of metal together and create something STRONGER then the factory frame, but not better. Some people are OK with having a pieced together frame, I'm not one of them. To each their own. I wouldn't want to be the next owner of one of these and I hope you give them full disclosure.
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used the saftey caps on my 95, for thr trans cases section, and also the rear shackles
more of my frmae has been plated, or replaced than original
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used the saftey caps on my 95, for thr trans cases section, and also the rear shackles more of my frmae has been plated, or replaced than original
How much were the caps? And did you have to remove the tub?
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Can you? I'm a certified welder, please don't try to tell me that my " patched frame" isn't better than stock. The rusted areas were cut out and replaced, the known weak areas were reinforced, and I added holes to fit a pressure washer and drain holes to remove the rust inducing dirt, water, salt, etc. All in all, stronger and better than stock.
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Old 03-16-2014, 05:14 PM   #17
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OP, I know exactly how you feel. I have a thread in the Tech section about repairing my frame. I lost the control arm mount, but when doing some frame inspection I decided the skid plate section was pretty much gone too. On the driver's side only 1 bolt was still connected to something resembling metal.

If you can weld or know someone who does (and live in a state that won't fail you for welding to the frame) it is fixable. If you can't weld, try to find a local frame shop and ask them. Maybe you could even buy the caps and have a welding shop install them.

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How much were the caps? And did you have to remove the tub?
Quadratec sells the Safe-T caps for $150 per side. You don't have to remove the body, but it does help to jack the body up a couple inches to get some more clearance, especially if you leave the catalytic converter connected.
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Old 03-17-2014, 07:11 AM   #18
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LoL...gotta laugh at some people...Properly patched frames are the norm in Nascar and other vehicle org's. They will pass any safety inspection and are done by professionals all the time.
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Old 03-17-2014, 08:26 AM   #19
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Sell it
I am more incline to buy a vehicle regardless of issues if the owner is upfront and honest about the issues so I know what repairs and costs will be after purchase. OP, if you are mechanically inclined and wanting to keep it check this site out for frames:

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Old 03-17-2014, 10:08 PM   #20
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buy a used frame swap it over if you have the tools and time i did here is my old frame



and here is the new frame

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buy a used frame swap it over if you have the tools and time i did here is my old frame

and here is the new frame
That looks awesome, how difficult was the swap? Its good to see someone fixing the problem rather than patching over it. I just got off the phone with my uncle who is a welder and he admits to patching more than a few frames in his life but when it came to his chevelle he replaced it. He said a patch job should not be treated as a permanent solution rather it should be considered a stop gap. And he's old and been a welder his whole life. Argue if you want, but I believe him over internet dudes.
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That looks awesome, how difficult was the swap? Its good to see someone fixing the problem rather than patching over it. I just got off the phone with my uncle who is a welder and he admits to patching more than a few frames in his life but when it came to his chevelle he replaced it. He said a patch job should not be treated as a permanent solution rather it should be considered a stop gap. And he's old and been a welder his whole life. Argue if you want, but I believe him over internet dudes.
My frame was so rotted i wouldnt have had anything to patch, if its only a spot of rust yes patch it but if more then 30% of the frame is rust just get a new one

Trust me, you only see rust from one point of view once you start cutting and looking into it deeper this is alot more rust, save ur self some time buy a new frame and swap everything over.

check out this thread of my project frame swap took me 4 month to do, but i only worked on the jeep on weekends 2 days maybe 4 hours a day, and some weekend not at all. if i could work on it every day non stop it would of a been a 1 week job, all depends on what you replace, i added a lift kit and goodies as i went

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Look, y'all stop bitching and moaning. End this pissing match okay? Yes he's from New Jersey, it's in his bio. Y'all are hijacking the OPs thread yelling at walls basically. He had to replace parts of his frame because he uses HIS jeep in a different area, differently from how you use and where you drive YOUR own rig. To each his own. Y'all are acting like freshman, man up, shit. If not, settle it once and for all. Meet up in between where y'all live and wheel! See who's shit breaks first, torque the frame, test suspension travel, horsepower. The list is endless. Settle this like grown ups y'all, this isn't what the Jeep community is about.
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Look, y'all stop b!tching and moaning. End this p!ssing match okay? Yes he's from New Jersey, it's in his bio. Y'all are hijacking the OPs thread yelling at walls basically. He had to replace parts of his frame because he uses HIS jeep in a different area, differently from how you use and where you drive YOUR own rig. To each his own. Y'all are acting like freshman, man up, sh!t. If not, settle it once and for all. Meet up in between where y'all live and wheel! See who's sh!t breaks first, torque the frame, test suspension travel, horsepower. The list is endless. Settle this like grown ups y'all, this isn't what the Jeep community is about.
I could not have said it better myself.
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I could not have said it better myself. If you are not a part of the solution then you are a part of the problem. If you are not helping the op by replying, then do not reply.
Finally a level headed person in this thread.
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How much were the caps? And did you have to remove the tub?
didnt remove the tub, I think they were like 120-150 per side
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This is my son's frame we repaired two years ago.

That pic was taken last summer while doing a complete frame off restoration and tub replacement. All frame repairs were completed with the tub on the chassis albeit raised several inches.



The Tj has been driven and wheeled by my 18yr old for the past two yrs. I have frequently inspected the repairs for cracks or other signs of fatigue without finding any.
If you don't feel comfortable repairing a frame then by all means don't, but don't belittle those of us that do. As far as resale, let your conscious be your guide. Myself I always give full disclosure.
One last thing, if you live in an area that can rust out a frame in 10yrs, you're probably going to have a difficult time finding a frame worth swapping.
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As far as resale, let your conscious be your guide, Myself I always give full disclosure.
Well put on the resale part!

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