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Old 02-26-2011, 02:49 PM   #1
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Rough Country Coil spacer - Question

Hey guys, I'm out installing the RC 3.25 kit on my uncle's '05 TJ right now and ran across a problem;

The kit came with and instructs you to use the "3/4 Poly Isolator" on the top of the new springs. However the Jeep, again an '05 Wrangler X 4.0L, has bump stops that will not allow the spacer, if you'll allow me to call it, to slip over them. Also, it already has a 3/4" rubber seat up there. It appears that the bump stop is pressed in, I took a quick peek at it without pulling the rubber or anything off. I'd rather not mess with it, but if I have to I will.

My question is; Is this a common problem to run into? And what do you all suggest I do? I apologize for not being a Jeep nut yet, I can take pictures if it would be helpful. I think the Jeep has been tinkered with before though, the springs did NOT have the locks on the axle perches they were just resting in place, however the springs are factory... gets me thinkin..

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Old 02-26-2011, 03:22 PM   #2
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I'm guessing you are talking about the front coils? If that is the case you pull the rubber bump stop out of the perch (it just pulls out) and there is a bolt inside the cup that you remove and the bump stop cup will come right off. The same goes for the rear bump stop. As for that rubber 3/4" isolator I think it comes right off. I have yet to try taking it off on mine but I think it is just kind of stuck on there from the factory.

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I appreciate the response Rubicon, ...Well, this is kind of an embarrassing post I have to do, But I found out what the deal is..

I THINK the 6 and 4 cylinder lifts are different with Rough Country. (Other than the front spring rate)

After re-reading through the directions a few times and finding the parts index, I found that under the 6-Cylinder list, the "3/4" Poly Isolators" aren't there. It's my understanding that maybe the 4-Cylinder has a different bump stop setup that needs the addition of these 3/4" pads. Regardless, I got the springs on, now I just need to battle the Pitman arm off finish up the steering.

I really don't want to re-drill for the track bar, RC makes an adjustable one, but daang over $100? Someone doesn't make a drop pitman arm? loL!
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I appreciate the response Rubicon, ...Well, this is kind of an embarrassing post I have to do, But I found out what the deal is..

I THINK the 6 and 4 cylinder lifts are different with Rough Country. (Other than the front spring rate)

After re-reading through the directions a few times and finding the parts index, I found that under the 6-Cylinder list, the "3/4" Poly Isolators" aren't there. It's my understanding that maybe the 4-Cylinder has a different bump stop setup that needs the addition of these 3/4" pads. Regardless, I got the springs on, now I just need to battle the Pitman arm off finish up the steering.

I really don't want to re-drill for the track bar, RC makes an adjustable one, but daang over $100? Someone doesn't make a drop pitman arm? loL!
u dont need drop pitman...I would just hold out till i could get a new trac bar.

the pads should not affect bump stop at all
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Old 02-26-2011, 04:00 PM   #5
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Yeah I don't think I will either, but first glance with this thing up in the air.. the angles just look horrible
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Old 02-26-2011, 04:00 PM   #6
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I wouldn't install the drop pitman arm for the 3.25 inch. You could end up creating more problems than you want. If the trackbar and steering drag link are directly in line, then you are good to go.

Edit: up in the air they make look horrible but what does it look like sitting on the ground?
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Old 02-26-2011, 04:04 PM   #7
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Also, you are correct that the pads don't affect the bump stops, It's my theory** that the 4 cyl and 6 cyl may have different setups, possible the 4 cyl is different (at least to rough country) in that it will allow you to slide the puppies on without taking out the bump stops.. I dunno..
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use some grease from anywhere you want, there's lots of excess on the steering components. Put it on the inside of the spacer and it will slide over with a little encouragement. It worked for me. You're going to want to use those spacers otherwise you'll have a 2.5 lift and not 3.25.
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Also I do not have a drop pitman and its all good. Just drill the track bar bracket unless your gonna buy the adjustable bar before you finish this project.
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I think the Jeep has been tinkered with before though, the springs did NOT have the locks on the axle perches they were just resting in place, however the springs are factory... gets me thinkin..
My '04 X does not have these either, and I bought it new.
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The springs do not come from the factory with coil spring clamps.
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No drop pittman arm as that causes. I installed the same lift on my jeep. Before you THINK about changing the track bar read this: tj front adjustable track bars for 0-3.5", does yours hit or fit? - JeepForum.com. Some companies don't design them correct and they will come in contact with the diff cover. While going down the road the axle could come up and brake the tract bar therefore seeing how many flips and rolls your jeep is capable of doing from your present speed. I haven't read the entire thread yet but I plan on it.
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No drop pittman arm as that causes. I installed the same lift on my jeep. Before you THINK about changing the track bar read this: tj front adjustable track bars for 0-3.5", does yours hit or fit? - JeepForum.com. Some companies don't design them correct and they will come in contact with the diff cover. While going down the road the axle could come up and brake the tract bar therefore seeing how many flips and rolls your jeep is capable of doing from your present speed. I haven't read the entire thread yet but I plan on it.
EXACTLY what I was looking at actually!

(the pitman arm thing was a joke )

I ended up not re drilling for the track bar, I looked real hard at Rough Country's adjustable track bar, the bend in theirs looks like it will contact the forward side of the pumpkin when the driver's side is stuffed and the passenger is sitting at normal height. Err at least that's when the stock one almost does. Not to mention, if I recall correctly, RC's turn buckle is up on that end as well..

If you come up with any other ideas please do share!

I'm going to go ahead and post a progress / before and after thread real fast.. everyone likes to see thosee
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EXACTLY what I was looking at actually!

(the pitman arm thing was a joke )

I ended up not re drilling for the track bar, I looked real hard at Rough Country's adjustable track bar, the bend in theirs looks like it will contact the forward side of the pumpkin when the driver's side is stuffed and the passenger is sitting at normal height. Err at least that's when the stock one almost does. Not to mention, if I recall correctly, RC's turn buckle is up on that end as well..

If you come up with any other ideas please do share!

I'm going to go ahead and post a progress / before and after thread real fast.. everyone likes to see thosee
I drilled mine and its doing great as far as I know. Makes me think I should check it because I haven't in 7k miles when I put it on but I'm sure its fine.
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My question is; Is this a common problem to run into? And what do you all suggest I do? I apologize for not being a Jeep nut yet, I can take pictures if it would be helpful. I think the Jeep has been tinkered with before though, the springs did NOT have the locks on the axle perches they were just resting in place, however the springs are factory... gets me thinkin..
If you don't take the bumpstop off, yes its common.

Remove the rubber jounce bumper, use a 15mm socket head + extension on a ratchet, remove the bumpstop cup and install the spacer. reinstall the bumpstops.

also there is absolutely no difference in bumpstops between the 4-cyl and the 6-cyl. the only difference from the factory is the spring rate.

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