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Old 07-30-2012, 03:41 PM   #1
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Rough Country lift - Rough ride

Hello all, I purchased my 2003 Wrangler sport with a 3.5"(I believe, could be 2.5") Rough Country lift. Maybe I didn't drive it on the correct roads when I purchased it, but the ride on any road with bumps is horrible, I feel every bump. I realize that it is a Jeep and not a Cadillac, but there has to be better options out there.

I don't have a set spending limit, but don't want to spend an arm and a leg, I do not do a ton of off roading, probably 90% on road. I have only taken my Jeep off road twice in the 6 months I have owned it. When I get some free time from work, I hope to get off road a bit more. I would like to keep a new lift under $1500. I have stock tires/wheels now, but will be upgrading to some new 15" wheels and 33" tires before winter probably.

This video explains my ride quality very well, on the left of course!


If the shocks are the problem and all I need to do is upgrade to a softer shock, I would be more then happy to do so, I don't want to have to buy an entire lift if it is something as simple as that.

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Old 07-30-2012, 03:46 PM   #2
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You could change the shocks but most will tell you to change out the springs too. Thats up to you.

I would suggest go for some Bilstein
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Old 07-30-2012, 03:59 PM   #3
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Change the shocks. I had to rc shocks and they were a pretty rough ride. What pressure are your tires at? That can make a difference too
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The height from the lift looks like mine which is the rc 2.5
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Old 07-30-2012, 04:08 PM   #5
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Also when your steering stabilizer is connected the ride over bumps is gonna be rough because your suspension is not able to absorb as much.
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Old 07-30-2012, 04:11 PM   #6
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Agreed with changing the shocks. If the shocks are RC Hydros, they suck. Their N2.0s and Nitro shocks are much better unless you want to go with a better company like OME.
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Mine was rough too, I put on softer shocks and made a huge difference
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Old 07-30-2012, 10:24 PM   #8
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I'm still debating about installing the RC 2.5" lift myself-- seems the biggest complaint is the shock stiffness. The OP's jeep seems light (no hardtop, winch, etc.) just like mine. I'm curious if the ride is better for folks that have more weight in their jeeps?
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Old 07-30-2012, 10:39 PM   #9
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Mine has the 4inch. But also has a spring lift. It is rough. They changed the shocks on the new ones. And it is comparable to stock ride
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Old 07-30-2012, 10:48 PM   #10
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X3 (4? I lost count lol) on changing the shocks. If you're considering a new lift and plan to keep it the same height, you're gonna need shocks anyway. Might as well start with them and see if you really need new springs.
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Old 07-31-2012, 02:37 AM   #11
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Very nice job on the video editing.
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Old 07-31-2012, 06:17 AM   #12
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Bilstein 5100 or Rancho RS 9000XL adjustable? I have a RC 4" lift and its killing my back. I can't decide between the two. I'm also starting with new shocks. Any pros and cons between the two? I'm loaded with a winch, hardtop and 33's.
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Bistein's and Rancho's are great shocks but I choose the Rancho's because you can adjust it to your ride comfort level. With Bilstein's, you're stuck with that one setting.
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Old 07-31-2012, 07:24 AM   #14
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If I ever were to have to replace my 04', I steer clear of any jeep that has an R/C lift under it.. If I were you I'd get rid of all that junk, and start over from scratch.
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Old 07-31-2012, 08:41 AM   #15
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Do you even have any bumpstop extensions in the rear?
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Old 07-31-2012, 08:58 AM   #16
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I have a 2 3/4" lift on mine with 31" tires, sometimes the ride was like a bucking Bronco on rough paved roads ( which we have a ton of in Michigan ) . Then I read about tire pressure somewhere here on the forum, checked mine, they were at 45 lbs. dropped them down to 32, changed ride and handling 100 percent for the better. So I guess I'm thinking if you go with bigger tires at a lower pressure it could help your problem without a lot of changes... just a thought.
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Thanks for the suggestions guys, haven't had time to research shocks, but I will do that soon. I will check the tire pressure and lower it if it is too high.

I don't mind just replacing the shocks, but if I do, and I still don't like the ride, can I find lift kits with just springs/control arms? Or would I just need to piece a kit together?
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I don't think you you will need a new lift. I only put on new shocks, and noticed a world of difference. I went with pretty basic shocks, skyjacker hydros due to all I could afford at the time. I busted the bushing, so I needed to get it fixed quickly. I also run my 31s at around 29 to 30 psi around town, also made a big impact. Discount tire put my tires at 35 for some reason. The forum is filled with great info on shocks, next time I am going with OME or bilstein.
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I just checked my tire pressure and they were 35psi all the way around. I lowered them to 30psi and I think I noticed a small improvement, I will have to drive it some more to know for sure.

Right now, I am going to start with some new shocks. Researching the Bilstein 5100s.
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Old 08-01-2012, 12:39 AM   #20
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How do I tell what size lift I have? I believe they are stock size tires and Grand Cherokee wheels:


It seems to look taller then other TJs with stock tires and 2.5" lift.
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How do I tell what size lift I have? I believe they are stock size tires and Grand Cherokee wheels:


It seems to look taller then other TJs with stock tires and 2.5" lift.
there is a way to measure to see what lift you are running. I am sure someone on here will chime in and knows what to measure(I don't). It looks the same height mine was when I bought it though. Mine came with the RC 2.5 lift, but the PO had put stock tires back on to sell it.

I took mine to 4wd parts to order the shocks and they measured to make sure what lift size I have.
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Measure the spring. Stock fronts are 12" and rears are 8" sitting level. If there are any spacers, include those in the measurement.
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Old 09-10-2012, 07:56 AM   #23
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OK, so I bought and installed some Rancho 9000 XL's this weekend for my 4" RC lift. Made all the difference in the world. It was so rough before the wife hated when I wanted to take the Jeep anywhere. She has no complainants now.

I probably will still slowly change out the RC for Currie components piece by piece but this was a well spent $324. At lease now I can take my time (as money allows) and re-do things right...
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I have the 2.5in RC lift and yeah, it's really stiff. The TJ feels like it's being hit with a hammer when i run over a pothole. If it's as easy as installing new shocks to make the ride more forgiving, I might just have to do it. hmmm...
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Old 09-10-2012, 03:55 PM   #25
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I have 4" RC coils, but NOT their shocks and I have a nice ride... it will be better when I drop some coin on Bilstein 5100's.

I think all the bad rap comes from their shocks... no joke. I have lots of articulation, stuff and droop and couldn't be happier.
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I have lots of articulation, stuff and droop and couldn't be happier.
What do you think their springs have to do with that?
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That is their 4" lift BTW.

It is also a much older kit because you have a dropped pitman arm. They discontinued including the DPA a few years ago.

Those coils really are not terrible (not saying they are great), but they are not really the issue(s) you have.
Your main ride quality issue is the shocks. Those are their RC9000 shocks. In terms of $, you have a $35/ea shock.

If you are satisfied with the ride height, I would focus on swapping in some decent shocks (Rancho 9000, OME, Bilstein 5100). In terms of $, you're looking at $75-$90/ea.

At the same time, replace the DPA with a stock PA. Period.

Measure for proper bump stops.

Repace the control arms with adjustable units with a high quality flex end, such as a Johnny Joint.

Replace the stock front trackbar (assuming it is simply relocated) with an adjustable unit.
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What do you think their springs have to do with that?
Well... if you have a 'stiff' spring vs a soft spring... there is a big difference. I'm just stating that the ride has a lot to do with the shock rather than the springs.
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Old 05-25-2013, 07:53 PM   #29
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Any one have rc better 2.2 shocks.
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I have a RC lift and quickly changed my shocks to the bilstein 5100s. Much smoother ride now. And my MT/Rs are set at 28 psi.

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