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Old 12-14-2012, 07:32 AM   #1
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rough country long arm?

Hey guys, I have been doing quite a bit of research attempting to determine which lift kit to buy. I don't want to buy a lift, just to have to buy another one in a year or two.

I have a friend with an xj whose rough country lift seems pretty solid. I want adjustable control arms, so was going o go with a different list. He pointed out the RC long arm kit, which has all the adjustable arms and such, for about the same cost as the Rubicon Express lift I was looking at...

We have been wheeling a few ones since I got my jeep. I prefer trail riding and can see some rock trails in my future possibly. There is some river driving, as well as mudding that may happen.

Is anyone running the RC 4" long arm? If so, what are your thoughts? If you considered it and bought something else - why did you choose the lift you did?

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Hey guys, I have been doing quite a bit of research attempting to determine which lift kit to buy. I don't want to buy a lift, just to have to buy another one in a year or two.

I have a friend with an xj whose rough country lift seems pretty solid. I want adjustable control arms, so was going o go with a different list. He pointed out the RC long arm kit, which has all the adjustable arms and such, for about the same cost as the Rubicon Express lift I was looking at...

We have been wheeling a few ones since I got my jeep. I prefer trail riding and can see some rock trails in my future possibly. There is some river driving, as well as mudding that may happen.

Is anyone running the RC 4" long arm? If so, what are your thoughts? If you considered it and bought something else - why did you choose the lift you did?
two things i would recommend.. don't go rough country and don't go long arm..rough country doesn't last long and rides well rough lol.. take it from me i have a rough country lift..I don't like long arm kits for off roading, they tend to get hung up on stuff.. Go with the Zone 4" lift.. its around the same price and good quality for the money. But thats just my 2cents

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two things i would recommend.. don't go rough country and don't go long arm..rough country doesn't last long and rides well rough lol.. take it from me i have a rough country lift..I don't like long arm kits for off roading, they tend to get hung up on stuff..
X2. I have had multiple short-arm lifts, then went to a long-arm suspension from Rubicon Express, then went to the Currie 4" short-arm suspension I'm currently running. Of them all, the long-arm was the worst on the trail because it regularly got hung up on the rocks. My Currie 4" short-arm outperforms all my previous lifts... in this order.... ProComp, Teraflex, Rock Krawler, Rubicon Express long-arm, now Currie. If you don't want to have to change again, go with Currie & it's Johnnie Joint-based suspension and you won't have to mess with it again.
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:11 PM   #4
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Thanks for the feedback guys. I am trying to be sure to do this right the first time.
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I'm going to be about Rough Country vs Zone like Unlimited04 is with bumpstops (...just pickin' on ya )...
Zone is in no way, shape, or form an upgrade to Rough Country.


Currie makes the best flex joint. Period. Run a set of short arms with their joints and you will be a success in the control arm department.

Pick a set of coils that meet the spring rate requirements you are after; i.e., evaluate your needs and setup.

Pick a set of shocks that meet the needs of your desired wheel travel.

Fill in the blanks with the best trackbars for your wheel travel and suspension setup. Again, shoot for something with the Johnny Joint.
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:09 PM   #6
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Keep doing your research. Rough Country is not the way to go.
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If you want to do it right, then move along from considering the RC long arm. There are more flaws with that kit than should be allowed. They've been well documented.
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I personally like the long arm systems, when designed properly. Short arms systems work too, but not too well with lifts over 4". A well designed long arm systems should have the control arm mounts as close as possible, if not above, the bottom of the frame rails to avoid creating hang up points. Suspension performance of long arms are nice as it lowers the roll center of the vehicle and allows for more wheel travel & articulation. If price is the biggest factor for you, a good short arm system may be best for you. A good long arm system isn't cheap. If you really want a long arm system, look at Nth Degree systems ((they don't make 'em for TJ's anymore)), and find something similar. You can also have a good local shop fab a good long arm system that'll work.
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Steve, you're worrying about arm length way too much. You can get a kickass suspension put together regardless of how long the arms are. Arm length matters much less than the mount positions and the competency of the installer/builder/owner.

As for the roll center height, that's not merely a function of arm length. My Jeep has longer arms than stock and my roll center is higher on both ends. I want that for stability.

Wheel travel is purely a function of shock length. A suspension using 16" arms and 11" travel shocks won't travel any further than one using 30" arms and 11" shocks.
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Steve, you're worrying about arm length way too much. You can get a kickass suspension put together regardless of how long the arms are. Arm length matters much less than the mount positions and the competency of the installer/builder/owner.

As for the roll center height, that's not merely a function of arm length. My Jeep has longer arms than stock and my roll center is higher on both ends. I want that for stability.

Wheel travel is purely a function of shock length. A suspension using 16" arms and 11" travel shocks won't travel any further than one using 30" arms and 11" shocks.
X2, that is some very astute advice & suspension design experience talking to you steve76t.

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