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Old 07-29-2010, 12:24 PM   #1
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I'm lifting my 03 rubicon with RE 3.5 super-flex. The kit doesnt have adjustable controller arms. Kits states i need to reuse my stock ones. My question is, Do i need to purchase lower AND upper adjustable control arms to change the pitch of my diff or can i just get the upper arms and be ok? OR do i even need get ajustable ones at all. I am going with a tom wood CV DS.... Just want to make sure I'm getting what i need.

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Old 07-29-2010, 12:43 PM   #2
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The Rubicon I think already has a CV driveshaft. Mine didn't so when I put the SYE/CV kit in I did need rear upper adjustable to correct the driveline angle. Be careful though and go ahead and cut the rear spring buckets flush to the axle so the shocks won't get dented in from the change in angle. Or you may be able to flip your rear shocks to avoid cutting the buckets.

You only might need the rear upper ACA's. Control arm's that come with the kit are sufficient. And the kit doesn't come with a drop pitman arm so plan on that expense as well.

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Old 07-29-2010, 12:59 PM   #4
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You don't needa drop pitman arm unless your also installing a drop drag link. Instaling the pitman arm will make things worse. Its a paperweight along with throttle body spacers, lol.

Do a search on them and you'll find plenty of threads explaining why TJs shouldn't use them.
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You don't needa drop pitman arm unless your also installing a drop drag link. Instaling the pitman arm will make things worse. Its a paperweight along with throttle body spacers, lol.

Do a search on them and you'll find plenty of threads explaining why TJs shouldn't use them.
I don't have a drop drag link and have never had a problem with DW or any other issues. My drop pitman arm was installed when I put the lift on. Once I got it alligned, steering wheel is straight, drives straight, and no wear on the front tires thats abnormal.

If you got the $$$ for the other kit posted go for it. RE kit ran me total with pitman arm and rear adj CA's $1200.
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Old 07-29-2010, 03:51 PM   #6
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Yea I dont think it would really cause any harm. I just remember being specifically told that when you look at the suspension from the front of the Jeep the Drag Link and the Track Bar are supposed to be parallel with each other. The drop pitman arm would cause the drag link to sit on less of an angle than the trac bar, resulting in them not being parallel anymore. Creating "incorrect geometry". If its not causing any problems then leave it in.
Supposedly the older jeeps like YJs and maybe even CJs needed the drop pitman arm, but TJ's dont need them unless your running a really tall lift.

Maybe someone else will chime in who knows a little more to back this up so I dont look like I'm talking BS, lol. I just remember when asking questions on here about the lifts for my TJ everyone said...no dont install it.
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Old 07-29-2010, 03:54 PM   #7
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BTW Wench...for a few bucks more check this out...top notch stuff. These are the control arms you want! There are no crappy rubber bushings, heim/johnny joints on both ends.
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Old 07-29-2010, 04:39 PM   #8
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Rough country makes a long arm kit for the tj that comes with the drop pitman arm ,adjustable long arms, long ss brake lines ,adjustable track bars . One of the most complete kits I've seen . The 4 inch kit can be had on e-bay for $1299 shipped . I just bought a set of 33 inch goodyear wrangler mtr's (nice tire) and mounted them on a set of 15 x 10 M/T classics . I will order the lift this week.
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Old 07-29-2010, 10:12 PM   #9
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thats why I wouldnt buy it...a long arm kit for $1300....you get what you pay for. Rough country is known for being on the lower side as far as quality and ride.

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