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Old 07-05-2012, 11:29 AM   #1
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Hi Guys and gals
I am picking up a 04 Rubicon in August. It's an auto. With 33 tires,terraflex 4 inch lift. And lots of added skid plates. I am thinking I should do big money things first with the cash from the sale of my YJ. I want to put in an AA Rubicrawler. That way I get 2.72 in 2 or 4 wheel drive, 4 to 1 normal and 10.88 for a really technical crawl. Big reason for this is I have a bad back and would like to cut down on the jarring on the rocks. Any bad feed back on them or would you pull the trigger if you could.
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Old 07-05-2012, 03:05 PM   #2
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I think the first think I would do is get the best seats available to properly support your back.

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Old 07-05-2012, 03:09 PM   #3
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^that..and with the auto and 4to1 you should be able to crawl pretty slow.
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Old 07-05-2012, 03:18 PM   #4
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I am kind of on the big side. Most of the aftermarket seats don't fit. they pinch me in the ribs and shoulders. But I can get ProCar ones if I decide to do that. I use to work for the parent company.
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Personally I would drive the Jeep for a couple of months. Let things shake out. You may find something or may need to fix somethng you don't like. Possibly even fix issues that may arise while driving it a couple of months.
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Old 07-05-2012, 04:29 PM   #6
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Is the Teraflex 4" kit a short or long arm? I have the Teraflex long arm kit and rode in a buddies with the short arm kit, I'll tell you the short arm kit was a million times more bouncy and jarring. I have a total of 7 vertebrates out of place 12 years in the Army will do that) and my long arm kit serves me well. That and airing down will help a lot.
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Old 07-06-2012, 03:12 AM   #7
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The kit is a short arm kit. I am looking at some big ticket items I want to do as soon as I pick it up. Top is the Crawler, then suspension. Something soft and compliant. Then bigger tires 35's and cut the body up for clearance. After that it is smaller dollar items. What were you. Airborne or lugged a mortar base. Your busted up son. Mine is crushed discs and Agent Orange Heart and lungs. 100% disabled now. Need it to be LCOG so I can get in it and smooth so I can keep doing this for some more years.
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Old 07-06-2012, 04:04 AM   #8
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The kit is a short arm kit. I am looking at some big ticket items I want to do as soon as I pick it up. Top is the Crawler, then suspension. Something soft and compliant. Then bigger tires 35's and cut the body up for clearance. After that it is smaller dollar items. What were you. Airborne or lugged a mortar base. Your busted up son. Mine is crushed discs and Agent Orange Heart and lungs. 100% disabled now. Need it to be LCOG so I can get in it and smooth so I can keep doing this for some more years.
thank you for your service, i am also disabled 60% army with back issues. keep in mind if your going to use it as a daily driver, that may influence some things, if you want a good crawler, the rubicrawler would be good, and i would say go with a long arm lift 3.5 to 4 inches, be a smoother ride than the short arm. and a good suspension seat, don't go for the race seats since they are formed
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Old 07-06-2012, 07:24 AM   #9
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If you are looking LCOG then look at MetalCloak flares, run 35s with a smaller lift and be able to flex just fine. Then throw a tummy tuck skid like the Savvy one and you'll have plenty of clearance without needing a ladder to get in and out.
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Old 07-06-2012, 07:40 AM   #10
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I want to put in an AA Rubicrawler. That way I get 2.72 in 2 or 4 wheel drive, 4 to 1 normal and 10.88 for a really technical crawl.
I was thinking something similar at one time, but after seeing the reliability of the 42RLE transmission, I would never sink that much money into this crappy of a transmission.

Put your money into good seats and the suspension...shocks, springs, bumpstop extensions, Currie Johnny Joints, etc.
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Old 07-06-2012, 07:51 AM   #11
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I was thinking something similar at one time, but after seeing the reliability of the 42RLE transmission, I would never sink that much money into this crappy of a transmission.

Put your money into good seats and the suspension...shocks, springs, bumpstop extensions, Currie Johnny Joints, etc.

While I mostly value your opinions I think you had rather bad luck with your 42RLE. While not the best transmission by a country mile there are plenty of DD rigs and competition rigs that run this transmission without problems.
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competition rigs that run this transmission without problems.
I know of one, and it's had more than a country mile of money put into it.

If I had that much money to dump into my Jeep, my transmission would be bad ass too...but I don't, and I doubt most here do either.

As for DD's, I may have had bad luck with mine, but others have as well.
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The OP wanted opinions, I've given mine.
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Old 07-06-2012, 08:31 AM   #13
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I know of one, and it's had more than a country mile of money put into it.

If I had that much money to dump into my Jeep, my transmission would be bad ass too...but I don't, and I doubt most here do either.

As for DD's, I may have had bad luck with mine, but others have as well.
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The OP wanted opinions, I've given mine.
That is true.

I know there has been several people with issues. I am just wondering that for the number of the 42RLE transmissions sold if the failure rate is not still relatively low.
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I am just wondering that for the number of the 42RLE transmissions sold if the failure rate is not still relatively low.
I see where you're coming from, but if that were the case you would almost think that you should be hearing more about failures with the 32RH/30RH, yet there isn't nearly close to the number of complaints for them as you hear for the 42RLE. The point being is that the 42RLE doesn't seem to be as bullet proof as the transmissions it replaced unfortunately.

As for the actual question, I'd look at other areas to upgrade since you already have the 241 with the 4:1 low range. I haven't really heard anything bad about the Rubicrawler, but then again it's pricey so I'm not sure there have been many reviews.
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Old 07-06-2012, 11:23 AM   #15
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I am thinking about it because the bouncing around on the rocks hurts. Check this out.
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Old 07-06-2012, 10:14 PM   #16
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Really with an auto I don't see a need for it. You can go as slow as you want and never stall. Now if i could get this with my manual. You bet i would have it.
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Old 07-07-2012, 12:32 AM   #17
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That is a slow crawl...
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Old 07-07-2012, 01:19 AM   #18
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Yep nice and easy, no crash when you come down off a big rock. Same thing compression braking on long steep loose downhills. For me I think it is worth the extra 2500 installed to have my back safe from knocks and bumps. One good smash and I'm back in the wheel chair for 6 months.
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how about some suspension seats? I have these in my TJ: Suspension Seats by Corbeau

Here is an idea for the transfer case. Sell the Rubi case for about 1000 and then buy an Atlas 4 speed twin stick. It will have about the same ratios as the rubicralwer, cheaper because you can offset the cost, not to mention front digs and all, and one hell of a case.

When you go into the 10 range that is a lot of tq so the front and rear shafts will have to be upgraded. On my rubi I rolled the splines in the rear on 35's and in 4 lo second gear. the front was safe because I already had RCV's up there.
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Old 07-07-2012, 08:58 PM   #20
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Had not thought about selling the TCase. That is a pretty good idea. Thanks

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