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Old 04-03-2008, 05:24 PM   #1
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I'm keepin it simple this year. I sunk so much $ into this thing last year. I just want to touch up the under carriage. and other misc. What type of paint should I use on the frame, etc.? and the cast alum mirror brackets? Any stereo pointers too. I've had subs in and out of the trunk. Trouble is, with the top/doors off I can't hear anything. Is there a proven solution for good sound?

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for good sound i'd recommend these or something mounted on the dash right there.

having chest height speakers make an amazing difference in voice vs the little feet level speakers.





Speakers placed on top of the dash and a good stereo will make the most difference in sound. As for subs, i have a 12" kicker so i have no problem with bass. Many people swear by down firing subs however i don't have first hand experience in a wrangler.

as for cd player.. i have a Pioneer deh 5900IB and that thing sounds amazing

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as for cd player.. i have a Pioneer deh 5900IB and that thing sounds amazing
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Good stuff!!, Thanks guys.
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that pioneer head unit is nice i have one and love it. as for the tweeters shown above, they suck, i bought an infinity kappa perfect component set for $115 on ebay and mounted the tweeters in the rollbar. as for a sub with the top down and doors off, i have my sub facing the center console(i removed my rear seat) and have no problem hearing it. here is a pic of my rollbar setup



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you might also want to try removing your body mount bolts, anti-seizing them and putting them back in, those TJ's I've seen coming down to NJ and PA from NY are flat out scary underneath... Good luck, and if you por make sure to use a decent paint over the top.
I'm going to do one of my 97's when it warms up, still trying to find the best method to clean it short of a grinder or growler but I have heard that 3M does make those dinky 3m pads for angle grinders, I may pick up an electric one from HF just for that..
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my stereo.






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Good luck, and if you por make sure to use a decent paint over the top.
I'm going to do one of my 97's when it warms up, still trying to find the best method to clean it short of a grinder or growler but I have heard that 3M does make those dinky 3m pads for angle grinders, I may pick up an electric one from HF just for that..
are you trying to remove the paint all ready there or just clean it so that the por will not chip or cause rust underneath?
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Are those 5.25" or 6.5" ? I'm having trouble deciding on a size. I don't want to hack up the roll bar if I don't have to.

I should be receiving my new stereo some time today.
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5.25" and 6.5" will fit in the factory rollbar.
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as for the tweeters shown above, they suck,
you mean these? This pic is just to show u where to mount some tweeters or small shelf speakers of some kind. I have a custom made sound bar behind the seats and my stock sound bar in front with the stock speakers in front and its a huge difference compared to stock. Having speakers above the dash makes a big change in sound.


Surround sound is one great thing however even the best systems sound bad when placed in the wrong location and height.
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are you trying to remove the paint all ready there or just clean it so that the por will not chip or cause rust underneath?
I want to get rid of the surface rust, get it down so I can get a good coating on it, the 3m pads are what I use when I do things like the hubs and knuckles but they are so small. They, 3M, make a bigs one for angle grinders so I may hit up harbor freight for one of their cheap electric ones. I have always use an electric drill and those sanding pads but they don't last long enough and the frame is pretty big. Then I'll probably POR15 it and paint it.
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I'll be painting my frame over the summer too and i am thinking of using a metal wire brush that goes on the electric drill and then strip the paint off with that. I dont want to use a grinder or a sand paper wheel as i dont want to thin out the frame too much.
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Mr C i'm curious have you tried that and does it work? What happens to the rust underneath? I dont want to end up buying it and just trapping the rust underneath the paint and having it continue eating out my frame.


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also i found this video

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Depend on the media you use, the 3m pads don't remove metal, only oxides or rust, I never had much luck with the wire brushes chucked in a drill. On board ship the deck apes used small air hammers with a baddass straight steel brush chisel but we are talking heavy steel an armor here. On the TJ frame not so much. I used the small 3m's pads in a drill to fix some rust blooming on my 87 Trooper and they worked pretty well which is why I am interested in the bigger 3m pads for the electric grinder, besides it's a good excuse for a new power tool that I don't have.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=31309
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=94017

To see what kind of job it can do go and check out this thread
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I want to get rid of the surface rust, get it down so I can get a good coating on it, the 3m pads are what I use when I do things like the hubs and knuckles but they are so small. They, 3M, make a bigs one for angle grinders so I may hit up harbor freight for one of their cheap electric ones. I have always use an electric drill and those sanding pads but they don't last long enough and the frame is pretty big. Then I'll probably POR15 it and paint it.
i used a wire brush on my cj and then used the por 15 3 step system(marine clean, metal ready, por 15)
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Depend on the media you use, the 3m pads don't remove metal, only oxides or rust, I never had much luck with the wire brushes chucked in a drill. On board ship the deck apes used small air hammers with a baddass straight steel brush chisel but we are talking heavy steel an armor here. On the TJ frame not so much. I used the small 3m's pads in a drill to fix some rust blooming on my 87 Trooper and they worked pretty well which is why I am interested in the bigger 3m pads for the electric grinder, besides it's a good excuse for a new power tool that I don't have.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=31309
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=94017

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I'm keepin it simple this year. I sunk so much $ into this thing last year. I just want to touch up the under carriage. and other misc. What type of paint should I use on the frame, etc.? and the cast alum mirror brackets? Any stereo pointers too. I've had subs in and out of the trunk. Trouble is, with the top/doors off I can't hear anything. Is there a proven solution for good sound?
The best possibal way for us east costers is to take our jeeps to ziebart and get the whole frame and under carriage tared for 300 bucks, it last for ever. The only thing you need to do if you wheel it, is to get it inspected for 70 bucks every couple of years, what they do is look for bald spots and touch it up. There should be a ziebart around you guys. For you richhp there is one in moosic.

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