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Old 07-22-2007, 11:54 AM   #1
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Rusty's 2" Lift

If I run a 2" rustys lift, do I need BPE's? What about upper and lower control arms.

I just wonder cuz high dollar 2" kits like Skyjacker come with a lot more than 4 springs and 4 shocks.

Additionally are the rustys shocks any good? They look wimpy.

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Old 07-22-2007, 12:19 PM   #2
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For 2" of height, you don't need BPEs. Heck, I've never needed them even when I was running 5.5" of lift (I'm at 4.5" now). For shorter lifts like 2", you really don't need more than springs and shocks. It's when you get to 3" and taller that other items like control arms, trackbars, etc. become more important.

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Old 07-22-2007, 12:36 PM   #3
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If I run a 2" rustys lift, do I need BPE's? What about upper and lower control arms.

I just wonder cuz high dollar 2" kits like Skyjacker come with a lot more than 4 springs and 4 shocks.

Additionally are the rustys shocks any good? They look wimpy.
their shocks look the same as all the others.

all you need is the 4 springs, 4 shocks, maybe extended bumpstops (you can glue hockey pucks to the lower spring pad up front and you can find rear extensions for cheap), and a tcase lowering kit (you can use washers)...your axles may shift slightly but it will be hard to tell and it will not be a problem. i can't tell on mine.
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Additionally are the rustys shocks any good? They look wimpy.
I talked to Rusty the other day when researching his 3" basic lift. Rusty says his shocks are made by Monroe who makes Rancho. Says they're basically the same as the Rancho 5000.
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I talked to Rusty the other day when researching his 3" basic lift. Rusty says his shocks are made by Monroe who makes Rancho. Says they're basically the same as the Rancho 5000.
Then you definitely don't want them. Rancho's R5000 shock is well known as a VERY stiff riding shock, way too stiff for a Wrangler. They're as stiff as ProComp's notoriously stiff ES-3000 is. Though of course Rusty will deny that or he'll try to make it sound like you should want that uber-stiff ride.

I'd definitely go for a different shock, anything but a shock that is essentially a Rancho R5000. Skyjacker Hydro rides fine, so does OME (Old Man Emu) and RE's Monotube shocks. The latter two shocks being gas-charged and notable exceptions to the rule-of-thumb that most gas-charged shocks ride too stiffly on a Jeep.
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Old 07-22-2007, 02:19 PM   #6
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the shocks aren't that stiff. the shocks are actually on the soft side.

check your PM jerry
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Old 07-22-2007, 04:45 PM   #7
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their shocks look the same as all the others.

all you need is the 4 springs, 4 shocks, maybe extended bumpstops (you can glue hockey pucks to the lower spring pad up front and you can find rear extensions for cheap), and a tcase lowering kit (you can use washers)...your axles may shift slightly but it will be hard to tell and it will not be a problem. i can't tell on mine.
do really need to lower the t-case for 2 inches???
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You shouldn't need to. And you should even need new bump stops, but that depends on how big of a tire your going to stuff
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you may or may not need to lower your transfer case.I put the Rustys 2'' kit on my TJ and got really slight vibrations-a couple of washers cleared it up for a couple of $'s...Put the kit you choose on and see if you need it.
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Old 07-22-2007, 10:02 PM   #10
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you may or may not need to lower your transfer case.I put the Rustys 2'' kit on my TJ and got really slight vibrations-a couple of washers cleared it up for a couple of $'s...Put the kit you choose on and see if you need it.
x2...you may or may not need it.

i would wait and see. no reason to buy it now when you may not need it...put on the lift and if you need it then go buy a couple washers and new bolts and you are good to go.
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3x.. you may or you may not need it.. here read tinys thread, even though its on bb its still nearly the same thing..

http://www.wranglerforum.com/general...lift-6915.html
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Old 07-23-2007, 12:14 PM   #12
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I'm running rustys 2in springs w/ skyjacker hydros and I love the way it rides. I talked to a guy saturday who had a 3in rustys xj lift and really liked the shocks ! I can personally recommend the 2in springs.
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i've also heard excellent things about the shocks that come with the 3" lift. 4jeepn ran them and i believe he said they were great.

hazmat...check PM

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