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Old 05-06-2011, 09:51 PM   #31
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and lets just say, as ibuildembig has stated, a tube of equal weight of the same material will be stronger hollow, but sacrafices on being larger, where as a solid bar of equal diameter will be stronger

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Old 05-06-2011, 10:28 PM   #32
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Cheapest I found the zj moog parts is 110 on amazon with free shipping, still a good deal as you can spare with your old one.

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Old 05-07-2011, 08:51 AM   #33
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autozone was like 113 $ and oreillys was like 117 $, that is with a lifetime warranty and using the warranty would be easier if you just bought locally
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Old 05-07-2011, 09:02 AM   #34
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I've had the Currie system installed on my jeep for 3 years now, no problems as of yet. It is not the cheapest system thats for sure but like all things Currie/Rockjock the quality is hard to beat.
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Old 05-07-2011, 09:38 AM   #35
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Which set up has heavy duty tie rod ends? Is there a Moog ZJ set up with heavy duty ends? Last time I checked Amazon, the parts, including the drag link, were about $260. I believe that includes the connecting sleeves as well. Moog parts have a lifetime warranty, but you have to return the parts at the retail store. I called Moog and they didn't have Amazon listed as a vendor. I called Amazon and they stated that they would honor the warranty, but it would be a hassle to send the part in and wait for the replacement part; however, it might be worth the savings of around $100. O'reilly's won't match Amazon's prices, and they and Napa are the only ones who sell Moog in my area. What about the Crown HD Steering Kit? The only negatives I've read are the cheap nuts and bolts and dust boots. According to Crown, the kit is either made in the U.S.A., Israel, or Taiwan.
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Old 05-07-2011, 10:43 AM   #36
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Which set up has heavy duty tie rod ends? Is there a Moog ZJ set up with heavy duty ends? Last time I checked Amazon, the parts, including the drag link, were about $260. I believe that includes the connecting sleeves as well. Moog parts have a lifetime warranty, but you have to return the parts at the retail store. I called Moog and they didn't have Amazon listed as a vendor. I called Amazon and they stated that they would honor the warranty, but it would be a hassle to send the part in and wait for the replacement part; however, it might be worth the savings of around $100. O'reilly's won't match Amazon's prices, and they and Napa are the only ones who sell Moog in my area. What about the Crown HD Steering Kit? The only negatives I've read are the cheap nuts and bolts and dust boots. According to Crown, the kit is either made in the U.S.A., Israel, or Taiwan.
For the tie-rod only, I've found $60-70 at local auto parts store...you need to shop around & price match where necessary...or use RockAuto.com.

ZJ Tie Rod Conversion

Stock vs. v8 ZJ


V8 ZJ end is about 35% bigger...

If you add a new stock drag link in, the price will be higher obviously...the Crown HD system is just a stock XJ/ZJ/TJ drag link with a V8 ZJ tie-rod...and the price isn't bad for all you get in one package.
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Old 05-07-2011, 11:05 AM   #37
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Old 05-07-2011, 11:55 AM   #38
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Are the tie rod ends bigger as well or just the tie rod? What about the drag link? Thank you.

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For the tie-rod only, I've found $60-70 at local auto parts store...you need to shop around & price match where necessary...or use RockAuto.com.

ZJ Tie Rod Conversion

Stock vs. v8 ZJ


V8 ZJ end is about 35% bigger...

If you add a new stock drag link in, the price will be higher obviously...the Crown HD system is just a stock XJ/ZJ/TJ drag link with a V8 ZJ tie-rod...and the price isn't bad for all you get in one package.
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Old 05-07-2011, 12:22 PM   #39
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Are the tie rod ends bigger as well or just the tie rod? What about the drag link? Thank you.
Did you not read what you just quoted? The taper in the knuckle can't change, otherwise the TRE wouldn't fit...or you'd have to modify the knuckle in some way.
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Did you not read what you just quoted? The taper in the knuckle can't change, otherwise the TRE wouldn't fit...or you'd have to modify the knuckle in some way.
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I only quoted amazon for price, i actually paid too much over at napa for the napa part numbers but i was doing the jeep build on the weekend and didn't have time to wait for super saver shipping.

My understanding from stu's site was the drag link was the same as the tj, it was just the tie rod that was bigger.
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Amazon is the best deal I have found on the Moog steering parts. I think that your right about the drag link. I wonder if the drag link will become the weak link (no pun intended) once the heavy-tie rod is installed. I'm going to replace the tie rod, tie-rod end, drag link, and connecting sleeves. Doesn't the drag link function as a tie-rod end on the passenger side? I also want to replace the track bar as well, but I'm undecided about which track bar to go with as I still might lift the Jeep. Good luck with your install! I'd appreciate a post on the install. Have a good one!


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I only quoted amazon for price, i actually paid too much over at napa for the napa part numbers but i was doing the jeep build on the weekend and didn't have time to wait for super saver shipping.

My understanding from stu's site was the drag link was the same as the tj, it was just the tie rod that was bigger.
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is it really an upgrade if you're still using the stock ends?

I don't think so.

IMHO, go with a ZJ V8 tie-rod or Currie steering.
This what I am talking about.

Description: The Currie Currectlync® heavy duty tie rod and drag link system for TJ, LJ, XJ, and MJ vehicles features, a 1 ¼" diameter forged alloy drag link, and 1 ¼" solid alloy steel tie rod bar that is bored and threaded on the ends. All 7/8" thread tie rod ends with boots are included as well as the Currie heavy duty steering stabilizer bracket. This unit is a direct replacement for the stock parts. No modifications or machining to any part of the vehicle is necessary (on vehicles with no lift, 2 of the tie rod ends must be trimmed to achieve proper adjustment). This unit is rated at 200% stronger than the stock components.
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Old 10-05-2011, 08:22 AM   #44
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Hey so hows about I revive a zombie thread? I've been thinking about upgrading my tie rod recently. Would it be advisable to just go to a scrap yard, find an undamaged ZJ tie rod, and just get it directly off there, ends and all?
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Old 10-06-2011, 07:59 AM   #46
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Just had the Crown unit installed! Wow, that thing is stout!
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Old 10-06-2011, 08:30 AM   #47
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Starting at 125, Rusty's will build you anything you want. Any tube, any joints.

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