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Old 06-22-2012, 09:03 PM   #1
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sea foam!!!

So i used sea foam last week for the first time. My gas gauge is actually reading properly instead of moving a quarter tank at a time. And im getting better gas mileage. Maybe its just a fluke but it seems to be working.

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So i used sea foam last week for the first time. My gas gauge is actually reading properly instead of moving a quarter tank at a time. And im getting better gas mileage. Maybe its just a fluke but it seems to be working.
I use it on every tune-up in both my jeeps.

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Old 06-23-2012, 05:48 AM   #3
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So, do you use it in just the gas tank, or do you add to the oil as well. Sort of skeptical when reading the can.....

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I'm one who doesn't buy into Seafoam. Any problem that Seafoam might help with can be done with less costly products or methods. And Seafoam certainly isn't going to fix a malfunctioning/erratic gas gauge sender. To me it's more a fad, like Slick-50 of the 70's was.
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Ive used it in a few vehicles. Helped my mothers subaru out alot, sucked alittle up through the vaccum line on the booster, let it sit for about 10 min then start it and let the smoke show begin. Ran and idled much smoother and had slight increase in mpg.
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Old 06-23-2012, 07:22 AM   #6
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Ive used it in a few vehicles. Helped my mothers subaru out alot, sucked alittle up through the vaccum line on the booster, let it sit for about 10 min then start it and let the smoke show begin. Ran and idled much smoother and had slight increase in mpg.

Can you spray some directly into the intake on the Jeep? Do you spray it in as it is running? This is something I've wanted to do since I bought the jeep I just wasn't sure how good/bad it was for it.
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Can you spray some directly into the intake on the Jeep? Do you spray it in as it is running? This is something I've wanted to do since I bought the jeep I just wasn't sure how good/bad it was for it.
I spray mine while it's running and throttle slightly open. Just enough to where it feels like it's bogging down but stays running.
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I always pull the vaccum line off the brake booster while its running. Pour alittle seafoam in a small dish or something. I used the top to a can of spraypaint. Let it sip up the seafoam, but not to much at once or it will stall. Turn off the engine and let set for 5-10 min. Start it and hold it 2k rpm for a couple min. It will smoke like a freight train for 10 min or so, soppose to burn all the carbon off the valves/top of the pistons.
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Old 06-23-2012, 08:29 AM   #9
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I've used it once, that was enough for me to figure out I didn't need to waste my time or money on the product again.
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i always pull the vaccum line off the brake booster while its running. Pour alittle seafoam in a small dish or something. I used the top to a can of spraypaint. Let it sip up the seafoam, but not to much at once or it will stall. Turn off the engine and let set for 5-10 min. Start it and hold it 2k rpm for a couple min. It will smoke like a freight train for 10 min or so, soppose to burn all the carbon off the valves/top of the pistons.
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Be very careful using the intake method... if you have big carbon build up, chunks of it can come off at once from the shock of the seafoam and do some damage to your valves, same goes for the water cleaning trick

I do agree it works though, helped decarbon my Saturn's cylinders well. Pull your plugs prior, observe any carbon build up, seafoam treatment and pull the plugs again
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There are guys who do put it in there engine/intake. But I have yet to do that. Although a lot of guys use ATF in there engine to clean it, just prior to an oil change. I know its crazy about my gas tank reading properly now. But im not making that up. After using the sea foam my gas guage doesnt move a quarter tank at a time any more!
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... But im not making that up. After using the sea foam my gas guage doesnt move a quarter tank at a time any more!

I believe it, it acts like goo gone on a sticker so to speak. If the lever on your sending unit is a little gummed up that would work to free it up some = smooth gauge operation.
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I absolutely think it has some value. My 99 that stays in Florida for months at a time with out being started developed the no start on the first or second crank problem. Typically the check valve assembly in the gas tank sticking open causes this. Before I left Florida a year ago spring, I put 2 cans of Sea Foam in and ran some through before I parked it. Came back the end of summer at it started first time every time. It still does now a year later. Prior it had not started good for at least 3 years. I was all ready to take it to the shop and have the check valve and fuel pump assembly changed out. ( I don't have any tools or a place to do the work). The ethanol gas absolutely creates havoc on all my small carburated machines, so it has to leave some gunk behind in everyones vehicle. Again, if it is a daily driver, I agree, I see no value. But if it ever sits for any length of time, I absolutely believe in using Sea Foam.
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I'm one who doesn't buy into Seafoam. Any problem that Seafoam might help with can be done with less costly products or methods. And Seafoam certainly isn't going to fix a malfunctioning/erratic gas gauge sender. To me it's more a fad, like Slick-50 of the 70's was.
Jerry this stuff has been around since before slick 50 and has been one of the better additives and stabilizers for all that time. Now that gas is cleaner and carbs are more rare it is not really needed as much. It is great for decarbing anything from boat motors to 2 stroke equipment and keeps ethanol from turning bad if used properly. It may not be needed on an every oil change basis but for vehicles that get low usage or have some issues it is a good place to start.

I grew up in the parts supply business and dealing with mechanics all day. I have heard all kinds of crazy stories about what Sea Foam did to fix all sorts of weird things. Some I believe and some seem silly. But I have sent a lot of people out with a $3 can ( old price) and had great results with general drivability.

I will keep using it as I see it as a benefit and preventative maintenance.
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So then what's the proper way of using it? How do you get best results from it? Best way to apply.
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Jerry this stuff has been around since before slick 50 and has been one of the better additives and stabilizers for all that time. Now that gas is cleaner and carbs are more rare it is not really needed as much. It is great for decarbing anything from boat motors to 2 stroke equipment ...
And experienced mechanics have long known the quickest and most effective way of removing carbon buildup which happens from not driving aggressively enough is with nothing more costly than 12-16 ounces of plain water. Mechanics have been decarbonizing engines with plain water since WWII and it works extremely well.

The first time I saw it being done was back in '65 or so when I watched a Corvette specialist at the local Chevy dealership decarbonizing a 427 engine. It scared me when I saw him trickling water into its carburetor but then he explained how it is done and why it is so effective. The technique was first proven effective with WWII bomber engines. There is no reason to pay for a product when plain tap water, yes, is 100% effective at decarbonizing an engine.
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Any pictures to better explain how this is done?
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There is no reason to pay for a product when plain tap water, yes, is 100% effective at decarbonizing an engine.
Colleagues of mine who would refer to themselves as "Experienced" mechanics are more at home with carb jets, pins and floats than fuel injectors, sensors, computers and e85.

I will not disagree with water being used to decarbonize. However, The new crap they put in fuel, ie. ethanol and other stabilizers/cleaners build up more than just carbon. They didn't have all that extra shit in fuel in '65 and the fuel was, dirtier yes, but leaded which helped with higher compressions, todays vehicles are much lower compression which means slower burn = incomplete burn. I've had heads off of modern engines (GM 3.4l v6) and cleaned tar like buildup off of valves and even the inside of the head. Pure carbon doesn't feel like tar it feels like pencil lead. A similar head (GM 3.1L V6) treated periodically with sea foam didnt have the gummy build up just a light coating of "hard" carbon. which is where H2O comes in.

Try throwing corn (sugar) into a fire, you'll get more than carbon ashes ...

Like JRowe said, I won't use it every service but about every two years or 15k miles it will make a difference.

... I've used it with positive results ... my experiences
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Another good additive when used sparingly is diesel, you can run small quantities though your fuel system and in oil like you can atf.. Diesel contains a lot of detergents and is great for cleaning inside the engine. Its also good for cleaning parts with.. And its a lot cheaper than other canned additives from the parts store.

That being said i'm one of those that has had good results with seafoam, used it on an 87 celica that ran dry on fuel and wouldn't idle after a fill up.. Put some in, let it idle and it cleared it up.
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How long is the sea foam smoke supposed to last? I put a little over half a bottle in the gas tank right before I filled it up. The radiator blew on me just down the road and the jeep sat for a few weeks till I got everything fixed, yesterday I took it out for a spin and it was smoking pretty bad. I was worried at first but remembered I had put sea foam in the tank just before it broke.
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And experienced mechanics have long known the quickest and most effective way of removing carbon buildup which happens from not driving aggressively enough is with nothing more costly than 12-16 ounces of plain water. Mechanics have been decarbonizing engines with plain water since WWII and it works extremely well.

The first time I saw it being done was back in '65 or so when I watched a Corvette specialist at the local Chevy dealership decarbonizing a 427 engine. It scared me when I saw him trickling water into its carburetor but then he explained how it is done and why it is so effective. The technique was first proven effective with WWII bomber engines. There is no reason to pay for a product when plain tap water, yes, is 100% effective at decarbonizing an engine.
Once again Jerry you have proved to me that you know your stuff. I did the exact same thing to my race car every month or so and it cleans up everything. Just had to keep the idle up.
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I can see your point when it comes to strictly decarbing an engine with a carb I use it as stabilizer as well on everything I own that sits at all I have 2 stroke stuff with years of use even with ethanol fuel that stil work well. I use it to decarb my boat and would not consider trying to use water with HPDI.
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.. todays vehicles are much lower compression which means slower burn = incomplete burn.
Not quite... low compression engines use low octane fuels which actually burn and ignite significantly faster and far more easily than what happens with a higher octane gas in a higher compression engine.
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I've used water to decarbon engines, I have used Seafoam as well, they both work however you cant add water to your oil or gas like you can with Seafoam. So if it works for you, then use it no matter what others opinions are...you cant go wrong with using it.
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I've used it on past vehicles. I also seen a significant change in each one after. I used the vacuum line method. The biggest difference I seen was when I used it on my 2003 VW Jetta Wagon TDI. It was really slow, sluggish, poor mileage, and the exhaust was visible and really stunk (only 36mpg's), even for a little diesel lol, then after the seafoam it was really peppy and responsive and I would average 43.6 mpg's in town and no visible exhaust or strong smell.
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Been using it on my 163,000 mile Mazda 6 with every oil change...about every 6,000 miles or so for the past 4 years in the gas tank......once a year in the crank case for about 60 miles just prior to doing an oil change, and once a year in the brake booster line. Thing still pulls like new. I also add it periodically to my craftsman lawn mower and to my Ryobi 2 stroke weed eater. Have also used it in the wife's Xterra with each oil change and occasionally down the brake booster line.
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So the easiest/most effective way is what? The brake booster line? The gas? The oil? I've never used this stuff before but my jeep is a dog and I want to change that
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So the easiest/most effective way is what? The brake booster line? The gas? The oil? I've never used this stuff before but my jeep is a dog and I want to change that
Second this.

Could someone take pics or post a video of proper usage in a jeep?

Not trying to poor it all into the gas tank and something blow up or dump it in the oil and it seizes my engine ha..
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