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Old 12-05-2012, 11:03 PM   #1
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Selling JK want TJ or LJ, info

As the subject states above, i want to get a TJ or LJ rubicon and any advice on what to look for, problems common with them or just anything else i can use to help come buying time! I have already heard that LJ's have harder time with top replacement parts? I love the idea of the spare room they have but the shorter wheelbase of the TJ is nice too. Anyways thanks for all the help

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Checking for rust is number one priority. Good choice though, tjs are the best looking jeeps

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Old 12-06-2012, 01:25 AM   #3
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I think the TJs look better. After driving an LJ, I'm jealous. More cargo room and a little better ride.
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If you have kids and will possibly be hauling them regularly, the LJ is what I would look for if I had it to do over again. I totally love my TJ, but having room for 3 kids and backpacks on the way to school is a PITA!
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LJ Rubi's are more expensive than TJ Rubi's.
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Old 12-06-2012, 06:34 AM   #6
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I wonder about the soft tops for LJ's, they look like they would more of a pita, I plan on a soft top whatever i decide to go with, I have the hard top for my JK and wish i never got it! Security is better but for someone that likes to go without tops and doors as often as I do but hates to get caught in the rain and cant just stop and put the top on again. Anyways, ive seen some LJ's around here and they look good but are hatdtops, I know I want to go back to an auto trans this time and plan on up to a 3" lift possibly 35's for tires but may be leaning towrds a smaller A/T instead of the M/T's i usually get. I dont wheel as much as Id like these days but when I do I like to know my rig is set up enough to know I can get out of most things myself. Long post but thats my plans anyways
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Old 12-06-2012, 06:39 AM   #7
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3 inches of lift is not enough for 35's on a TJ or LJ.
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Old 12-06-2012, 07:25 AM   #8
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Damn really! Well thanks for that! Once I get one I will have to do more research on the lifts
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Old 12-06-2012, 07:28 AM   #9
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Ive always liked the bigger M/T tires before but might consider the smaller A/T just to help on gas but prolly wont be able to do it! I love the look and sound of those big tires!
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3 inches of lift is not enough for 35's on a TJ or LJ.
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3 inches of lift is not enough for 35's on a TJ or LJ.
3" is plenty of lift for 35s
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Old 12-06-2012, 09:06 AM   #12
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metalcloak fenders = 35's with zero lift and no cutting of the hood required. there is mild brazing required with the mod cut rears but not much... I think you can still run a 33 in stock form if you go with the stock cut rears if you absolutely don't want to cut anything. I'm really surprised I don't see more of their products around. More on subject though: I'd hold out for an LJ. I love my TJ but damn... would love that extra room!!
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The LJ vs TJ debate purely revolves around what you value. Personally, I hate the huge ass on the LJ.....for what I like to do, the poor departure angle would hold me up constantly. Even the much smaller ass on the TJ held me up so I pushed the rear axle back 6". If you'll be hauling lots of stuff and don't mind the departure angle, then the LJ fits you better.

When making this argument, many people solely focus on the wheelbase. "The LJ will be more stable on steep climbs than the SWB TJ." But on steep enough climbs, the fat ass won't be able to clear the initial dip and the fat belly (assuming stock skid) will probably clip the crest. If you're looking to maximize departure and breakover angles, a stretched TJ is the way to go vs. an LJ. If you're looking for maximized tub space, the LJ is your guy.
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:05 AM   #14
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Go LJ Rubicon, I have an 04 TJ Rubi and love it, but am stuck stealing my wife's Honda Pilot if I have to make any kind of a Home Depot run. Now, with a new baby, let's just say the Jeep is at home allot more than I would like.

Unless you are off-road every weekend, it just makes more sense and life easier having the extra room of the LJ.

If you don't mind me asking, why are you canning your JK?
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:55 AM   #15
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TJ for sure! Dont get me wrong the extra room back there on the LJ would be nice but they just look "wrong" to me.
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TJ for sure! Dont get me wrong the extra room back there on the LJ would be nice but they just look "wrong" to me.
That's what I said as well. Found an LJ Rubicon and couldn't pass it up. Thought it looked strange at first but the LJ grows on you fast. Now whenever I see a TJ I think it looks strange. Can't go wrong with an LJ Rubicon. It's a better base to start with than the average TJ because of the front and rear Dana44 axels and lockers, unless its a TJ Rubicon then exactly the same except shorter. I say go for the LJ rubicon, you will not be disappointed.
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Old 12-06-2012, 02:53 PM   #17
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Great points! I love the unlimted i have and the back seats fold down flat and i even fit a dryer from best buy! The guys were like sir a dryer wont fit in a jeep, i said just bring it out front! Haha, well they were proved wrong! I prolly will get the LJ as i have a family and do a lot of projects and all, i just havnt seen many with soft tops so seems like they might look weird or be more difficult to take the top up/down as often as im going to. Im only getting rid of it cause of the payment, im trying to start getting debt free faster so the overall price will be close to or more than half of my JK, and i like to work on vehicles and i like the 4.0 i6, the 3.6 pentastar is pretty nice and i will miss its power and stock 285hp and fuel economy and many other things i have enjoyed with it but do i need a 2012? Answer is no, haha just a change in life decesions is all, it will be very sorely missed but i will still be in a jeep in the end!
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Old 12-06-2012, 02:56 PM   #18
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And once again thanks for these posts! I joined in jan 2012 when i first got my jk but went with jkforum now i really like this sight wish i used it sooner!
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Old 12-06-2012, 05:17 PM   #19
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And once again thanks for these posts! I joined in jan 2012 when i first got my jk but went with jkforum now i really like this sight wish i used it sooner!
I was thinking about trading up for a new JK, but I think you helped talk me into sticking with the ol girl a lil while longer...
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Old 12-06-2012, 07:09 PM   #20
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Wait, no, i know this really cool one for sale haha, yeah I totally get it, like I say I will miss mine big time.
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If you're hesitant about the soft top on a LJ, you can consider getting the Rampage frameless soft top. They have one for the LJ (Amazon has a good price). Yes, certain replacement/aftermarket parts are difficult to find and usually cost just a tad bit more, but the extra room and smoother ride of the LJ is definitely worth it. It's just more practical for daily life. I suggest finding a LJ Rubi with a hard top, buy a soft top afterward and either sell the hardtop or leave it hanging in your garage.
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Old 12-06-2012, 08:22 PM   #22
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3" is plenty of lift for 35s
It is???? Sure if you buy flat fenders or take the damn things off but he never said he was gonna hack the fenders. 3 inches of lift with stock fenders and 35s ya you can drive down the street. Take it off road. Than you'll see.
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Old 12-06-2012, 08:29 PM   #23
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I will probably get the LJ rubi, I looked up some images of it w/soft top, most look silly, a few look pretty bad ass but I think with a lift and tires tends to make them look better. So would prefer a 2006 LJ Rubi auto trans with half doors and as low miles as I can find! Im sure there will be hundreds to choose from in my local area haha.
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Have to watch out for the OPDA issue with the 05-06 4.0L..

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Have to watch out for the OPDA issue with the 05-06 4.0L..

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Good point there. It's definitely something you want to consider. Knowing about the OPDA issue didn't steer us away from purchasing our 2006 LJ Rubi a few months ago. We just see it as another thing to check during regular maintenance for signs of wear. Due to some folks shying away from the 2005-06 LJ, I've seen someone take a 2004 LJ and build it up just like a Rubicon. It's a good start. Has the Dana 44 rear, so just add the Dana 44 front and front/rear lockers and it's essentially a Rubi. So, if the OPDA issue makes you nervous, you could always find a cheap '04 LJ and spend a little time/money to get it up to Rubi status. Could probably do that cheaper than buying a LJ Rubi anyway lol...
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You need more lift with an LJ to compensate for wheelbase and although a they have a lot I parts in common, there are many more TJ only parts / choices. Question - why are you getting rid of the JK? I'm guess I it's a 4-door?
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As the subject states above, i want to get a TJ or LJ rubicon and any advice on what to look for, problems common with them or just anything else i can use to help come buying time! I have already heard that LJ's have harder time with top replacement parts? I love the idea of the spare room they have but the shorter wheelbase of the TJ is nice too. Anyways thanks for all the help
There are very very few parts, especially replacement parts that fit a TJ and not an LJ. I love my LJ because of its stability, and I love my CJ because its short wheelbase adds an element of fun. Drive both and decide which works for you.
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Old 12-07-2012, 10:35 PM   #28
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You need more lift with an LJ to compensate for wheelbase and although a they have a lot I parts in common, there are many more TJ only parts / choices. Question - why are you getting rid of the JK? I'm guess I it's a 4-door?
Getting rid of it cause of the payment, I can make the payment just fine but its more than I really want to keep paying for the length I have left, I really like everything about it, I dont mind the 4 doors, I love the room it has, especially when the rear seats fold down flat and the bed space is almost similar to a lot of truck beds. Hell I can lay fully flat out and camp in the back and have plenty of room! Just a change in my life and Im trying to simplify and get debt free faster. On the other hand if it doesnt sell I wont be to upset!!
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I didn't realize the rear seats lay down flat like that and was looking for a new overland vehicle. May have to take a closer look at the JKU. I originally ruled it out b/c i want to run 40's and was considering a full size pickup or Excursion with cut out flares. The TJ is much less refined, but fairly inexpensive to mod and extremely easy to work on. I have 4.88's and can cruise at 75-80 mph on the highway.
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I found my way to this thread because I'm looking at a LJ or TJ as a 3rd vehicle because I store my Charger during the winter, and our JK is my wife's daily driver.

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I didn't realize the rear seats lay down flat like that and was looking for a new overland vehicle. May have to take a closer look at the JKU. I originally ruled it out b/c i want to run 40's and was considering a full size pickup or Excursion with cut out flares. The TJ is much less refined, but fairly inexpensive to mod and extremely easy to work on. I have 4.88's and can cruise at 75-80 mph on the highway.

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