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Old 12-24-2011, 10:12 AM   #1
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Shifting problem

I recently put a rough country 4 inch N2.0 lift on my TJ. I having some problems with 2nd and the reverse gear. Most of the problem is when I put it in reverse. When in reverse it tends to slip out of gear when starting to back up. This also happens in second gear but mostly in reverse. Any ideas guys?

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Old 12-24-2011, 12:10 PM   #2
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Sounds like the console needs to be shifted rearward

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Old 12-24-2011, 03:02 PM   #3
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Take the center console out and the boot off. Put the shifter in the gears where you are having trouble and you will probably see thatthe shifter is making contact with the floor of the jeep. Take a dremel tool and trim back as far as needed the check again. That should do the trick. It seems in all of the TJ's Ive built that the 6cyl ones dont need the floor trim but the 4cyl always does.Maybe just coincidence but anyway that seems to be your issue.

It is due to the bend of the shifter, and the fact that you probably have a trasfer case drop bracket so you esentially moved the floor farther up on the shifter giving the bend, less clearence. The farther up on the shifter that the floor goes, the less clearence. Try it and let me know how it works out.
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I recently put a rough country 4 inch N2.0 lift on my TJ. I having some problems with 2nd and the reverse gear. Most of the problem is when I put it in reverse. When in reverse it tends to slip out of gear when starting to back up. This also happens in second gear but mostly in reverse. Any ideas guys?
The usual root cause of this is from having installed a body lift, transfer case drop, or both. Either of those increase the distance between the transmission and the two transmission shifter boots (one is hidden below the top shifter boot) which restricts how far the shifter can move in certain directions. WIth enough added distance between the shifter boots and transmission, the shift lever's throw is restricted and it can't always fully shift into all the gears.

Two fixes include removing the lower boot which is the most restrictive of the two boots, or moving the console back a tad which is easily done since it is only held to the floor with a couple sheet metal screws.
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Old 12-24-2011, 03:17 PM   #5
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My lower shifter boot is already off. When I get home I will try to move the console back about an inch or two. If that does not work I'll try the dremel tip. I have a transfer case drop so I guess that's the issue. I can't wait to save enough $$$ to get a SYE and new driveshaft. Thanks guys I'll let y'all know how it goes when I can work on it tomorrow.
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I just installed a 3.25" suspension lift and mine is doing the same in reverse and 2nd, I've pulled the upper boot and it seems to help minimally
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My lower shifter boot is already off. When I get home I will try to move the console back about an inch or two. If that does not work I'll try the dremel tip. I have a transfer case drop so I guess that's the issue. I can't wait to save enough $$$ to get a SYE and new driveshaft. Thanks guys I'll let y'all know how it goes when I can work on it tomorrow.
It's the transfer case drop. It's causing the shifter to bind on the boot bezel. Take off the plastic bezel and try running the shifter. You'll probably notice it suddenly becomes smooth as butter. I don't run the stock shifter boot now. I put a shock boot over the shifter rod and plugged the hole with a beanie. It's a little rube but it's unique and I don't have problems shifting. Will post a picture.
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That's before I filled the hole. It's not pretty but I can shift perfectly now and don't have to shell out money for an SYE immediately.
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Pull the shift boot up and remove the foam tube from around the shift lever that's underneath it, then reinstall the shift boot.
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What they said. I dont even have a boot on mine.
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Old 03-08-2014, 05:35 PM   #11
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That right its your transfer case drop kit from Rough Country. I have the same 4Inch lift kit. Not the greatest lift. It came with it when I bought by TJ. Had the same issue 4th and reverse would pop out of gear. The plastic gear shift consul box would limit you from shifting further down. So 1st solution is to don't cut the consul or trim it. You will later regret it. Get rid of that rubber shift boot. Just buy or make a leather boot. Whats happened is that the rubber boot is binding and

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flexing thats why its poping back. It will get worse when inside the temperature gets colder and the boot is hard. So this will solve the problem it did for me. Then do the SYE and get rid of the transfer case drop kit. Now I have SYE done and it shift smoother and plenty of room to shift down. It will bring it back to factory level. SO DON'T CUT ANYTHING.
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Old 03-13-2014, 11:45 PM   #12
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I've pulled both boots and it's actually hitting on the floor looks like I'm goin to have to do some trimming.
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Old 03-14-2014, 12:19 AM   #13
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Or you could bend the shifter....

Ideally getting rid of the tcase drop would get things closer to original.

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