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Old 09-10-2007, 06:12 AM   #1
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short throw shifter

hey guys I was wondering if anyone has a short throw shifter in their rig. what the benifits or down sides to them are and what brands to go for? I noticed a nice B&M for around 131 or so online and have been thinking about doing this for awhile. responses would be most welcome.

here is the info on that shifter I was looking at...
http://dieselgalaxy.com/cart.php

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Old 09-10-2007, 09:15 AM   #2
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Short throws are good in sports cars cuz you find gears faster... but when is teh last time you were speed shifting your rig? In trucks and jeep, i am a fan of big long sticks with throws that range from against the dash to in teh back seat. but thats just me.

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Old 09-10-2007, 03:41 PM   #3
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The short throw shifters are a cosmetic upgrade in a Jeep. I would consider doing this only to prevent overtraveling into a gear. That being the case I would use the Hurst shifter, as it has adjustable stops to prevent this mishap. The last time I experienced this was in 65 Chevy truck, it overtraveled into second gear. Real pain to fix, but that truck had definitely been used.
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mine has a B&M honestly i cant tell the difference, but that just form a ten minute ride in a stock one and a ten minute ride in mine, the PO said to me that if you want to have lift and dont want to cut the body then you need one or else you cant get into second gear,

i would save my 130 personally but i really havent driven it that much, nor really neded to shift wuickly, and remember im used to the CJ whos throw is like 1.5 times as long as the stock shifter anyways!
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I drive the jeep at times like a sports car shift it hard and fast. I like runnin mud as well and if its gonna get me to another gear quicker than stock I think that I might look into it more. but I want everyones opnion on this so that I really don't completley waste my money.
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i've got a stock shifter and dont really have a problem shifting fast. even in the mud when you're grabbin gears like crazy. granted i've never used a short throw so i dont know how much difference it'd make. but i dont see it bein necessary. maybe i'll try one someday and change my mind, but i doubt it
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Old 09-11-2007, 01:58 AM   #7
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I don't really have a problem shifting fast, I do miss gears every so often though, I've just heard that people really like them and its a good mod.
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I have done a little work and a few mods on my Jeep and I would rank the B7M short throw shifter as one of the best bang for buck mod I have even done.

It is FAR from simply a "cosmetic" upgrade. Where it shines is out on the trail, not the mall. Especially in rock crawling where you do a lot of shifting in various situations...like Pritchett Canyon in Moab.

The difference between the OEM shifter and a B&M is like eating a bowl of soup with a spoon or a boat paddle

It is a 30 min swap, keeps you from banging your knuckles on the dash and makes shifting fun.

I would give this upgrade a big thumbs up.

Let us know what you do.
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I run the B&M in my jeep. One of the best mods ive done for off roading...and just joy of riding.
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Agree with savage 100%. One of the best mods I ever did on my 98 tj. I would buy one in a heartbeat for my new jeep but they don't make one for the 6 speed yet.
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hmm. i may be having to look into this then
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well i drove thee jeep a lot more, and i wouold say it is very nice, especailly wiht my flip down head unit!
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sweet these are what I've been hearing around my neck of the woods. anyone else with comments or opinions? how hard what the install?
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anyone get a part number for this?
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nope,
and is it just me or does it make it harder ot find neutral. it feels lik eneutral is in gear, it is kinda hard to wiggle side to side, idk maybe its just me or my boot or my shifter knob that is kinda loose
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i plan on putting a hurst short throw in mine ... I think it will help compensate shift travel on my rig due to a 3 inch body lift the stock shifter keeps hitting my console, real bad going into reverse. I dont want to modify my shifter or cut/notch out my tub floor so a short throw is the best solution.
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sweet these are what I've been hearing around my neck of the woods. anyone else with comments or opinions? how hard what the install?
B&M Vs Hurst:
Having examined both very closely the B&M is better built and uses a 1 piece solid stainless steel shift rod whereas Hurst useing a 2 piece that uses screws to hold it together

As for the install: It is about a 30 min job, max. There are about 5 or so screws/bolts that hold the console on. NOTE you do NOT need to remove the console to do the swap. I didn't. There are 4 bolts that hold the shifter in there and it is just simple hand tools and 30 min.

Let us know how it goes for you.
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B&M Vs Hurst:
Having examined both very closely the B&M is better built and uses a 1 piece solid stainless steel shift rod whereas Hurst useing a 2 piece that uses screws to hold it together

As for the install: It is about a 30 min job, max. There are about 5 or so screws/bolts that hold the console on. NOTE you do NOT need to remove the console to do the swap. I didn't. There are 4 bolts that hold the shifter in there and it is just simple hand tools and 30 min.

Let us know how it goes for you.
thanks don, ya I've heard bad things from people who have gotten the Hurst and wish they got the B&M this is the shifter I have always looked at. I've had my eye on a short throw since my 2nd vehicle. thanks for the info on the swap
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Where can i buy an B&M shifter? Today i broke the threading part on my shifter so i have 2 options. Replace with stock or go with short throw.
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i'd get one if they made one for the 6speed. if you shift even slightly fast it will grind going into 2nd and 3rd...
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I just ordered a B&M from ebay. 188.88+9.95 bucks shipping
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sweet, but you got screwed on that price, there is one on ebay for like 140 shipped. congrats on that though, do a write up so when I copy it when I get mine
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140 for nv3550 tranny?
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sorry disreguard, I was thinking you had the 2.5 for some reason.
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Fox which one are you getting I found 2 for the 2.5 1 is like $145.00 and the other was around $200+ something I Can't remember right now. But The hurst were in the $300.00
Range and those are not as good as B&M ?
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sweet, but you got screwed on that price, there is one on ebay for like 140 shipped. congrats on that though, do a write up so when I copy it when I get mine
Last week, $122 shipped on Amazon. They just jacked their price to 139.
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Hurst is 220ish. the reason why its not "liked" is that its a 2 piece so 2 more screws you have to worry about.

As pics go... i'll take plenty of pics as long as i dont brake something else. btw i should be receiving it tomorow so
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Fox which one are you getting I found 2 for the 2.5 1 is like $145.00 and the other was around $200+ something I Can't remember right now. But The hurst were in the $300.00
Range and those are not as good as B&M ?
ya, I was tlking about the B&M they are the less expensive one and better built from what I've heard. like 88 said Hurst comes in a two piece and I personally would rather have one solid piece. Hurst uses their name alot in my opnion to jack their price up. I've found that on Ebay the B&M has been the best prices around lately. I'm gonna have to put this off for a few weeks until i can save a little for it, but this is the one that I'm getting.

can't wait to see the install 88. keep us posted
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I'm gonna have to put this off for a few weeks until i can save a little for it, but this is the one that I'm getting.

can't wait to see the install 88. keep us posted

i was putting it off too but i broke the threading on my stock when trying to extend it so now i have it wrapped ghetto style just to get me to work and school and back. If i didn't brake it i would have waited to get one at least after my lift.

basically thats what it looked like and it was all okay untill i pressed on it a bit more and cracked it right where the threaded part and the black part of the shifter join.



i had stuff to cover it up and make it look pretty too so i wasnt going to live it like that..
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I hope that mine will break so that I can use that as an excuse to buy it.

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